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Wayspot Title: Street corner at Chestnut Bend and Smoketree Lane
Location (lat/lon): 42.624659,-83.905846 (previous GPS coordinates - this might not be 100% accurate since I lost the ticket information but is based on my search history)
City: Howell, Michigan
Country: United States of America
Screenshot of the Rejection Email (do not include your personal information): Unavailable - I used the “Help” chat and my ticket information was lost and I no longer have the ticket number
Additional Information (if any): See below
I reported a “street corner” import that seemed like an obvious removal. A few days later, I received a follow up message from the ticket saying “…We have received your report and will get to it when we can” or a similar message (again, I lost it so I can’t confirm wording). Just yesterday (about 24 hours before making this post) I rechecked and the ticket information was still available with no new messages, but when I looked up the subject Wayspot, it had been moved!
In the above screenshot, the black marker represents the original “street corner” location (clearly single family private residential property) and the red dot marks the new location that was seemingly somehow determined was better, despite it being an odd mix of either SFPRP or unsafe access.
As of the time I’m posting, the Wayspot is still live. Hoping to resolve this as an appeal, here, since my ticket information is now lost.
Every single one of the thirteen wayspots in that L14 S2 cell are street corners. All are located the same as this one was, slightly inside SFPRP, except for one that was located in the middle of the road.
Criteria went in the bin for these imports. Haven’t seen a single example that wasnt either on the house, its garden, or in the road. SFPRP or No Safe Pedestrian Access.
But hey, we can’t submit things in roundabouts with informations signs for people to read, that would be unsafe. And LFLs on the edge/outside wall/fence of a property must be removed.
I hope you get an answer as to why this was moved from house to road and why that was better
Thankfully these haven’t arrived in my region. I like exploring and finding things that make good wayspots. Creating pokestops and gyms is a lovely bonus when you have an area without many already. Finding these were filling up an area which I was exploring… it’s hard to imagine. It’s a different game.
Imports don’t really seem to meet any rules. But removal reasons exist (not simply “never met criteria,” I mean the ones mentioned in this appeal) and I would have thought would obviously extend to imports unless communicated elsewhere.
I see it every time Niantic decline to remove imported wayspots which are located somewhere that would ineligible for user-submitted wayspots. It was meant to be a deadpan non-humorous response, but I can see how it didn’t come across that way.
(I personally think the street corner imports are horrendous, for lots of reasons.)
Every street corner Pokestop I have seen on the Wayfarer Map has been squarely on SFPRP. And we are talking hundreds, not one or two, and that is just what I have seen. I guess Scopely doesn’t care about lawsuits like Niantic did. And as far as reporting these:
I haven’t and hadn’t planned to report any of these for SFPRP since the announcement only mentions reporting them for safety. But it seems like the moved location for this one is in the street and even less safe than that homeowner’s driveway was.
I am starting to understand why no clarification has ever been made on the eligibility of neighborhood signs… they are more Pokestops.
Just allowing little free libraries and other things that are on the edge of people’s yards or attached to the outside of their fences/walls would probably go a long way towards eliminating the need for these imports anyway.
you have a point. may as well allow the actual points of interest if SFPRP isn’t a concern. i would rather see those than driveway pins.
and yes, i do see that the announcement did not change current criteria, but we all know how that goes when we expect the average player to understand that what they see in game may not meet criteria.
It’s great to see Niantic taking the correct approach towards imported wayspots, but unfortunate that they continue to improperly police wayspots that users submit which are well aligned to exploration criteria.
I think that since we’re getting more generated and low quality user-submitted wayspots, while at the same time some nominations that clearly meet the criteria are being rejected, we need a way to sacrifice bad wayspots to help better ones get accepted.
I still need to think through the details, but the basic idea is this: if a group of wayfarer experts selects, say, five bad wayspots around a better candidate, they could connect the bad ones into a pentagram, let them disappear, and the greater one would rise.
