There are several wayspots I’m trying to setup in the Admin building I work at. We have four buildings joined together on “skyways” and we walk these areas every day for exercise. The trail from building 4 to building 1 is about a half mile, so a full lap is one mile. This is a public space in cleveland clinic that does not see patients and does not house anyone under 18. Yet they keep getting rejected with the automatic process. I’ve already checked PogoMap and confirmed the submissions I’m putting forth are not in a shared cell already … but this is the third time for each of them and each time I try to add a little more information, but the automated process keeps rejecting them.
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I’m sure someone with experience of submitting in this sort of setting can give some tailored advice …
But you are missing a big trick with "nothing more to add " in the supplementary information. This is the place to include links to any information about these. Its the place to tackle the issues that arise from indoor nominations to explain any possible misunderstandings and to back it up. From the text you have provided you have given very little to the reviewer to work with in order to review it positively. The reviewer is another wayfinder like you, make it easy for them by providing all the information needed, and dont expect them to spend time searching.
I find a free app called GPS Camera useful for situations where it will be difficult to prove the location. I use this only for the supplementary photo where it prints the co-ordinates on the photo.
So it sounds as providing the location is ok there are straightforward ways to improve this,
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I do not like to see hanging art submitted without a LOT of evidence that it is more than just decoration. A friend has a job to produce and procure and rotate the art around a large corporate campus, so I must really be convinced the art is tied to the place.
Yours may meet my higher bar from the look of them. I am surprised the automated process is rejecting these nominations. Be sure to take your photos and look at them in your gallery before you start the submission. You may be able to crop out some of the background (but not all of it) to give the ML (machine learning) model context that you are submitting the art, not just a corridor. And you may be able to play with zoom, like making the art look farther away than you are able to stand to get a better photo of it. Taking a horizontal photo may help, too. And I always recommend cropping tall photos like your camera takes to keep the focus on the point of interest, at least for the main photo.
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I think your suplementary photo can show the small plaque about the painting origin. That will help convince reviewer that the art is more permanent. You can make collage or put link regarding the painting in suplementary information.
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Thanks guys!! Yes, all of these paintings are part of the building and they all have plaques next to them. When it comes to the second picture what kind of things should I put in there to ensure it gets through the best way?
I have no real proof of this but I would remove the mention of a clinic from your description. I’ve had murals in doctor’s offices get rejected when I mention it’s in a doctor’s office and pass when I’ve removed that reference with no other changes to title or photos.
It looks like the first 2 where rejected by AI so that is your 1st hurdle.
A lot of reviewers may see this as just an hospital and may refuse as blocking emergency services, use the Supplemental Information to explain that this isn’t the case as you have in your post…
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I think the angle you’re taking the photos from is not helping. Art is typically photographed straight on. Perhaps you can’t fit the whole image in the photo because the hall is too narrow. But in that case, I would opt to try to capture as much of the image as possible. FYI, PGO displays photos best if they use a square crop.
For the supplemental information, you can try to take a photo of a portion of the image while looking out a nearby window…maybe? If you can try to show any part of the outside view, that can help reviewers locate it. But you must explain what to look for in the supplemental info. “Notice the blue emergency pole on the ground outside the window. That can be seen on street view.” “Tap on the second photo to see the bus stop located in front of building 400 which can be seen on satellite.” That’s the kind of detail that helps prove the thing is where you have pinned it.
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Good point! I would have taken the photo of the art in landscape instead of portrait, as that may help get all of the POI in frame.
@CitizenFortress I tend to try out both when seeing what would be best for the main photo, but also the supporting. In a long hallway like this, I would lean towards landscape for both, as it’ll show more, while portrait will have more foreground/background for the main photo. Landscape may even allow you to get the plaques next to these into frame.