Regarding the dismissive comments: Wayfinder is about identifying locations that meet specific criteria, and my argument is based on official Dublin City Council (DCC) urban planning, not personal ‘exaggeration’ or ‘annoyance’.
To address the points raised:
Evidence of Benches: Google Maps images are often outdated. The benches and infrastructure are physically present and serve as the basis for the ‘Social Hub’ function.
Definition of ‘Parklet’ and Urban Design: While the estate layout is old, the Dublin City Development Plan (Chapter 10) explicitly states that the city’s strategy is to retrofit green infrastructure into existing areas to ensure community access to quality space. Whether you call it a parklet or a managed open space, its function remains the same.
Official Documentation: You don’t see ‘Carrow Road’ by name in the general policy because Chapter 10 defines the criteria and management for all such spaces across Dublin. It explicitly mentions that ‘road verges’ and open spaces are managed to serve ‘social and recreational needs’.
Safety as a Priority: The Plan acknowledges that spaces like this were highlighted as ‘safe places for exercise and social interaction’ during the pandemic. In a neighborhood surrounded by heavy transport traffic, this designation is a technical fact provided by the City Council, not a claim that ‘society would breakdown’.
I have been reading through this.
There are places where the clear frustration of the situation is bubbling up.
This specific place is always going to be difficult, so be accepting that is the case. That doesn’t mean give up, but there will times when people are not going to say what you want hear.
And we all need to be mindful of the frustration you are feeling and your situation.
It will be difficult to move this from something that is eligible space to an acceptable one with an anchor point - I think an entrance point is a suitable anchor.
To be honest I wonder if you might get some better pictures when the weather improves. Constant rain, cold and grey skies don’t make you want to sit around outside. You can’t have people or car number plates in the main photo but it might benefit to have one or two showing it being used as a place for exercise or social activity. It will convey the impression of a space the community values. And that is what you need to get across.
@frealafgb is coming up with alternative places.This is a great idea to explore. We can become fixed on getting one nomination through and in the meantime there could be others to help improve the game board overall.
You have shown “A Bench”, calling it a Social Hub is egging it a bit.
It doesn’t matter what I call it, I won’t be voting on it. Local reviewers saw it as “grassed area” and Niantic agreed. What it isn’t is a park, a parklet or somewhere that “encourages” exercise. Any exercise you could do here I could do on my front garden and the pavement, doesn’t make them acceptable.
social and recreational needs = No Mentions.
road verges = 1 mention in regards to insect habitat.
“This has been supported by the gradual
‘wilding’ of parks, road verges and graveyards in order to provide habitat and food for
insects and pollinators and through significant changes to planting schemes, which are now
comprised of 80% of pollinator-friendly plants, changes in mowing cycles and the
elimination of glyphosates from green space management.”
All outdoor spaces where stated as “Safe Places”, recommendations to use your gardens more etc. Plus remember, Pandemic recommendations are no longer in place.
We are not going to agree on this so I am going to take a step back.
Yes but the photo resolution is low. If its higher, it might be visible. Personally i always try to avoid such photo. Especially since the car facing photo