This is a mural on the wall of one of my local restaurants got rejected for various rejection reasons only for appeals to tell me it is a sticker that it isn’t permanment. But I can assure that this isn’t a temporary display. It is permanent and has been there for several years as the playful city usa designation was multiple years back.
I am curious can I get a second look into this?
It is not a normal sticker. It is a hyper local representation of local culture.
To me, that does not appear to be a mural. Murals are defined as paintings, and from the picture it doesn’t look like a painting. It looks more like a collage of various images and text that has been enlarged and printed out.
Out of curiosity, you mention it’s located in a restaurant. If the restaurant isn’t a generic chain, have you tried nominating it instead?
the restaurant is a chain but they put local culture themed displays inside of the restaurants for each location.
Should I resubmit it with a better description and call it a collage? Because the picture does represent cultural achievements of the city earning recognition for being a playful city USA city multiple times.
It looks like a really fun art work.
I think we reach for the word mural as we know it ticks a lot of boxes, and we get concerned that the correct word won’t get a favourable reaction.
It’s a long way of saying I do think this should be described as a collage. But I doubt that technical difference should be the deal breaker as it is basically a good work of art - it takes skill to make a good collage - I’ve tried and failed
The fact it is in a generic business should not matter.
Was confirming location an issue?
Originally it was rejected for just various rejection criteria. The NIA reviewer added Generic Business and Temporary or Seasonal.
I have to wonder if the reviewers were having issues approving it due to the fact the wall focuses primarily on children from the city as a part of the playful city USA events.
I can also note that the streetview preview on the wayfarer dashboard is showing a cell phone repair store instead of the restaurant.
It is in Applebee’s and from what I have seen is each location has some sort of localized walls. looking at intel one just focused on the city of Waxahachie simitlar to this one with the city name another location had the picture approved without the city name.
I may have to just settle on not trying for this one a second time due to it focusing on children instead of the city as a whole.
These types of art installations are common at Applebee’s as part of their branding to try and appear local. They’re definitely not mass produced but you’ll find this type of art at most dining locations. Just providing that for context that, for me as a reviewer, I would see the image, see a dining table in the Supporting photo, and that would be enough for me to believe it’s there if Google lists an Applebee’s at that location.
I don’t know if it’s hand painted or not. I don’t think that should matter. It’s intended to be as permanent as any painting would be. This type of mash-up actually meets my head definition of what a “mural” should look like. I also think people care too much if a “mural” must be painted or what. It meets a definition of a mural.
In my opinion, rejection and appeal were incorrect for this, at least based on my own understandings.
I’d probably call it “wall art” but not a mural, but I dont think that matters - the word can be edited if people decide there’s a better description than mural, and its a decent word to describe large artwork
To me it looks like some very cool artwork and worthy of a PoI. I dont understand the appeal rejection.
Arlington is one of the suburbs of Dallas, home to 2 professional sports teams (Dallas Cowboys and Texas Rangers), as well as Six Flags Over Texas. This made me wonder if there could be more than 1 Applebee’s here, but per their website, there is only 1 in Arlington.
To me, this is similar to the art that Walmart has been adding to their stores. While not painted but printed and applied to the wall, they are original art pieces, with designs representing the city the store’s in, and being designed by different artists.
I’d maybe include in the supporting info that this is unique to this location, Applebee’s in Arlington. I’d also add more details to the description, describing some of what is in the art piece, such as it being a Playful City USA. I’d also maybe try to get a wider photo of the piece, something in landscape, to capture as much of it as possible.
A mural is defined as a painting on a wall. This doesn’t appear to be painted. It appears to be a printed photo collage.
It is still unique and showcases the local area, and making collages is an art form in and of itself. I just felt like it would help to have the wayspot described correctly.
It’s a bit like the “pergola or gazebo” thing all over again, assuming you remember that discussion
Wall or other surface. Would you say a painting isn’t a mural because it’s on a lamppost or on a canvas hanging on a wall? If you paint the wall with primer and then paint on the primer, is the primer a block such that the actual mural is no longer on the wall?
What is ink but a type of painting substance applied by a different method than brush?
Not all murals are painted onto a wall. That is a hill that I will die on.
Murals do not require either paint nor wall. They simply need to be affixed or applied directly to a structure or surface (not moveable in the manner of a wall-hanging or an object in a niche).
Some of the traditional mural techniques require glue or another adhesive, or the transfer of pigment from a design created elsewhere.
Realistically, reviewers need to be concerned about potential for artistic merit, reasonable permanence, and being unique to the area as opposed to commonplace or mass-produced.
I don’t think it helps to worry about if it’s on a wall vs. ceiling, if the pigment is intrinsic to the substrate, etc…
Agree that not all murals are painted directly onto a wall. The one at my hometown library is made up for different vinyl panels, each cut to the size of the side of the building, and printed with a “color-by-number” system. The community then helped to paint each panel off of the wall, and once all the panels were painted, they were installed to create one large mural.
The murals at Walmart at similar, except that an artist does the work, and Walmart then prints it out like a sticker or vinyl and affixes it to a wall. It’s still a unique piece of art, and no 2 are the same. I know the ones in my area Walmarts are done by different artists, especially since one has a more realistic style, and the other is a little more abstract, giving off an exaggerated look.
And yes, I submitted all of these examples and did use “Mural” in the titles. All were approved.
I’ve gotten these approved before. I might use the words Photo Collage. I feel like these are appropriate wayspots because they are unique to the area.