This is a gas station and has been a gas station for decades:
Please remove this wayspot and take measures against whoever nominated it here and whoever/whatever approved it here.
The correct pin for NoHo Cafe appears to be 34.17925880661503, -118.39616819761306 if staff would rather move than remove this.
The rooftops are very similar and would have been an easy mistake to make if remote submitting in ingress.
If someone has absolutely no idea where they are and where they were - yes, it would have been an easy mistake to make 
But then reviewers or Niantic’s ML should have caught that and rejected it.
Do you submit remotely from a long distance? I don’t think I have ever made this error, but I have almost done it. It is very easy to get lost where you are on the map when you are moving the pin a long way.
I do agree with you that reviewers should have done more checking. But not that punishments are deserved.
My guess is that the photo was taken from a car - Google Maps - and then the nomination was submitted at the gas station while getting gas or something else.
Also, I have been warned for not seeing a mural that I reported as removed. I don’t see why others can’t be warned for not being careful enough when nominating.
And another thing - “rooftops are similar” implies that the submitter somehow looked at the rooftop of the cafe before submitting. The only scenario I can think of in such case is that the submitter checked the map of the correct location but then selected incorrect location in game. This is a bit more complicated explanation than submitting from the gas station and just leaving location of the gas station.
And finally - if the photo was indeed taken from inside a car, the nomination would then meet rejection criteria for ineligible photo.
Rejection criteria and removal criteria are not the same thing, and once an eligible Waypoint has been approved a new photo can be submitted. Cafes can be eligible, and you don’t have access to the nomination information on this one. Niantic does.
As far as pin placement from the site or remotely goes, we do not, cannot, and will never know how this was submitted. We can speculate all day, but there is no way to prove you are correct one way or another on this one. It’s a red herring argument.
This is for Niantic staff to decide.
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And finally - if the photo was indeed taken from inside a car, the nomination would then meet rejection criteria for ineligible photo
However, there is 0 evidence it was, no need for your guess.
I wasn’t the one who started speculating. @cyndiepooh started speculating.
Correct. They are, as long as submitted location is correct and as long as photos are not taken from a car.
Also correct. They are not the same thing. But I am not appealing this rejection based on its photo. I am appealing based on its incorrect location. All I said was that if the photo was taken from a car, it would be another reason for rejecting this nomination, in addition to its incorrect location.
I wasn’t the first one who started guessing. @cyndiepooh started guessing first. You gonna tell them their guesses are not needed?
Notice I quoted your second instance of this “guess” and not your first. Your first “guess” was a innocent observation and comment just as Cyndies. Your final claim however stands no merit.
I can claim that the idea about mixed up rooftops has 0 evidence and thus such guess is not needed. Is there some guideline about which guesses are innocent observations and which have no merit and thus are not needed?
The claim that the photo was taken from a car was actually my first guess, in response to @cyndiepooh 's rooftops guess. To which I provided evidence, btw. The final “claim” you quoted follows logically from my first guess and would serve as another reason of why this wayspot should have been rejected, in addition to its incorrect location.
The staff will decide on the wayspot based on facts not guesses or speculation.
Let’s leave them to their job.
A little clarification: the photo taken from a vehicle isn’t a reason to reject a nomination or photo. You can take acceptable photos from a car provided you can get close enough with a good enough angle. That said, having parts of the vehicle visible in the photo is a valid reason to reject a photo.
This photo isn’t fantastic, but it’s by no means a reason to reject the nomination, or as a photo edit.
Maybe Niantic should change this…:
…to say “taken inside a car with car parts visible” then.
You’re right, they should.
I said that it would be easy to mistake the two rooftops. in what universe is that the same as saying they took the photo from a car?
You said
They said
How you’re reading it is how I understood it until I reread several times, but the commentary meant is such that you “speculated” first.
Your “speculation” was a rationalization, not a condemnation.
Since this should be a location edit and not a removal report, can this topic be closed and the op referred to help chat?
I think it’s up to the Wayfarer Team to decide on this posting.
If you want to do an edit, feel free to do an edit.
