Still not fixed?
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Havenât gotten an update from staff yet.
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Still nothing? Iâm getting annoyed by my trail marker submissions getting rejected by reviewers for âgeneric businessâ when the AI wouldâve approved them all in a day.
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See, itâs things like this that really make my blood boil.
About two weeks ago, during the Unova Tour, I followed a local hiking trail I found that I noticed had a lot of markers that hadnât been submitted as Wayspots yet, so I got to work.
Now the results are slowly coming in and itâs one nonsensical rejection after the other. Various combinations of âgeneric businessâ, âfake nominationâ, âabuseâ, âunsafe accessâ. I literally walked this entire trail two weeks ago. None of these nominations are fake. All of them are safe to access. Itâs a hiking trail in a city. Theyâre not letting people hike through dangerous areas.
Itâs just the same usual elitist reviewers who think trail markers donât âdeserveâ to be approved, even though the Niantic criteria explicitly say otherwise.
I am done with human reviewers. Fix the AI already.
***mod edit
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I have been (strongly) against those âeducational emailsâ but since they have been improved with examples of what the recipient of the email did wrong, you may want to start going to help chat with reports of incorrect reviewing. I believe @kawin240 had been submitting some of these kinds of reports and might be able to advise how to submit them.
One or two bad decisions I just appeal, but if they all are being rejected for wrong reasons, the reviewers need education.
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A list of rejection reasons like that is disheartening.
I have a long trail that I am submitting and I shouldnât have to feel that I have to cross my fingers and hope for a good outcome for each one.
Itâs especially disheartening knowing the AI wouldâve had them all in the game by Monday. Now itâs either resubmitting them and hoping that the almighty reviewers look upon me with favor this time, or use all of my appeals for the next 5 months and hope the people working the Appeals desk know what the rules are, which is also not a given.
Very well said to the community
And with the sale, who knows what ML will be like in the future.
I will guess that it will be menacing!
When submitting Hike Trails, always make sure to add a Link to a trail map in the supporting Info. This way the location can be proven by reviewers as part of the trail, even if the sign itself isnt on street view.
Even then, sometimes reviewers reject those, but they will most likely go through with an appeal. Also the chance of getting hike trails approved is much higher if you can provide a Trail Map.
Iâm using this Site mostly, because it has lots of trails mapped:
its mostly in Europe, but it has lots of trails that donât have official sites and its also a good way to find hiketrails to map them in Wayfarer.
If you submitted a Map, this of course doesnt apply to you, but its generally good advice, so i thought it would be good to share.
Does anybody else get massive amounts of incorrect third party photo rejections by ML? Even photos i never Published are now rejected. This is around 80% of my and my families rejected nominations last 2 weeks or so. The problem is around a month old for me.
Edit: The Issue had been sent to Niantic.
Out of curiosity how are you connecting third party photo rejections to ML?
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âOur teamâ emails can mean human or ai review. I have only seen the 24 hour decisions we attribute to ML reject for âDuplicateâ or âWayfarer criteria.â Did you get these âThird party photoâ rejections around 20-24 hours after submitting?
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I think they are basing this off of what they have said in these posts:
Staff has address their issues, and it doesnât appear to be an issue with ML, more an issue with trying to repurpose but unable to provide proof that the artwork has changed.
Edit: I can say that ML is not rejecting all nominations and edits with 3rd party photos; some are getting past ML from time to time.
For example, someone in the area of my bonus location was submitting several nominations using photos taken from 3rd party websites recently, and I made sure to report all the nominations for repeated abusive behavior about 2 weeks ago. Some of the photos, both main and supporting, were being taken from social media, news articles, Google Maps, even screenshots from Google Street View. I havenât seen any nominations from that area using 3rd party photos for about 2 weeks since I filed the report.
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Thanks for both the recap and info.
It always says âour teamâ in the mail
Most often yes, it was in the first 24 hours.
We have advised you to post your nominations/edits in the Nomination Support topic, as there may be other issues than just the photos that are causing ML to reject, and right now, ML can only reject new nominations. The one that you did share did have some issues, so itâs very possible that the others could use some improvements as well.
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