New wayspot «Street corner »

Agreed. People accuse me of “bad faith” because they don’t understand how adding intersections is a positive thing that I agree with. Niantic’s approach here is great and am looking forward to a wider rollout of this experiment.

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Your post is causing confusion in the community. Please clarify whether those efforts are unrelated to the Wayspot criteria.

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Parlo con la mia esperienza da valutatore italiano (quindi non so negli altri paesi) ma cartelli cosi non sono mai state buone candidature (ripeto in italia) qualcuno ci provava ma erano semplicemente i nomi delle strade che si respingevano sempre (sono già difficili le piazze figurati le semplici strade). Questa è una prova ed ok ma permettere che queste tipo di candidature vengano approvate mi pare un pò forzato molto lontano dai criteri di accettazione che avete sempre detto di rispettare (e che ultimamente a mio parere state controllando molto di più rispetto agli anni passati), da parte mia penso che se vogliate aiutare in qualche modo i giocatori in particolare le zone rurali bisognerebbe modificare le celle (anche di pochissimo) poiché sia nei piccoli paesi sia nelle grandi città molte cose sono vicine una all’altro (sempre in italia ad esempio nei piccoli paesi di montagna i monumenti ai caduti, il municipio, le poste, ad altre cose sono molto vicini tra loro e la maggior parte delle cose non compare) So che è una decisione che dovrebbe prendere il gioco e non voi di wayfarer ma non penso che non vi parliate per fare delle modifiche. Ed anche perché se permettete l’ingresso di queste cose nel gioco (io parlo principalmente di Pokemon go) da “domani” avremo tutti i nome delle strade della città da valutare poiché nessuno direbbe :”ah dobbiamo fare gli INCROCI di strade importanti” ma vedrebbero solo i nomi delle strade. Per quanto riguarda le fermate degli autobus le grandi stazioni (almeno in italia) anche se con difficoltà alcune volte vengono approvate ma le stazioni piccole le reputo da approvare solo se nella postazione di attesa c’è una mappa della città e in quel caso faresti la richiesta alla mappa e non alla stazione vera e propria. Questi sono i miei pensieri.

I don’t mind adding bus stops as Google Maps can be really annoying to use on a phone and generally at finding the bus stop I’m looking for.

They also would help rural players a bit as most villages at least got 1 or 2 stops of a kind of public transport.

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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO the game is already full of coal why would you further pollute it

Can you at least give people the option of opting out of such polluting contamination.

Seriously Street Signs - whatever next. Oh wait everything!

You strive for the community to be good and to becoming better at reviewing and to have open great debates on what is acceptable. And you then do this… Way to go to make it harder for quality.

And you know the only thing I have heard about hanging about on street corners centres on a range of illegal :woman_police_officer: activities - :oncoming_police_car: thank you for teaching us hollywood, police dramas and all those news stories of people being :police_car_light: busted at street corners :police_car:

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I don’t know how involved the Wayfarer team is in this action.
But it is even more suicidal for Wayfarer than when they imported Overture Maps’ inaccurate location database as a power spot.

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Hi all
I’ve transfered some comments over to the other discussion Reviewing Streetsigns
because it handles the way to review streetsigns.

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Bus stops should be perfectly fine submissions anyway in my opinion. Train stations are allowed, subway stations are allowed, ferry docks are allowed. Why discriminate against buses? It’s all public transportation. Is taking a bus not a great way to explore an area? And it’d be great for rural areas since (at least here in the Netherlands and probably in most of Europe) even the most remote devoid-of-Wayspot-material villages usually have a couple of bus stops.

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I agree that bus stops can be argued to meet criteria although they are typically rejected at present for being indistinct, which I think is a shame, so I think this is an excellent move. Busses indeed connect rural areas in the same way that train stations connect towns and cities.

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As for wayspots related to public transportation, “ Terminal” is originally the correct term, not “ Stop”.
So it is wrong when all train stations are wayspots.
But, while train stations are judged permissively, bus stops are judged strictly.

I just submitted a bus stop in France and got automatically rejected. I appealed this decision quoting your forum post and the appeal was declined too because the waypoint had no historical interest. Why is that ?

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welcome to the forum!

because the experiment is being conducted with specific locations. there has not been a change of criteria announced. at least not yet.

Edited to add in this comment from Aaron:

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Our current Wayfarer system relies on user-submitted points of interest once a user reaches eligibility. This can be a challenge for players in areas with very few PokéStops and Gyms. As an addition to our current system and to empower these Trainers, we’re introducing Niantic-generated PokéStops in those areas to help them level up faster, become Wayfarer eligible sooner, and start nominating even more locations in their area for an even richer game experience!

This is not to be viewed as a change in Wayspot criteria or guidelines.

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I mean, you could also just relax the guidelines a bit to make things found commonly in rural areas eligible. If you’re just importing slop like street corners in rural areas, all that’s going to result in is those new rural wayfarers submitting more street corners because that’s all they see around them, and those will inevitably get rejected by reviewers.

Making bus stops eligible everywhere would be a good start in my opinion.

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The challenge they see is the inability of players in some areas to level upto eligibility. They are trying to address that part here. Eligible Wayspot candidates in rural areas is a completely different discussion.

Bus stops is a good argument. I don’t believe Niantic has ever said they don’t meet criteria. It’s upto reviewers and the majority seems to believe they are ineligible.

Sounds like an issue that can easily be solved by lowering the level requirement to something much more easily attainable or just removing it outright. Filling rural areas with pictureless slop wayspots that will just confuse the new wayfarer users seems suboptimal to achieve that goal. Especially considering those imported wayspots will occupy cells that could also have unsubmitted eligible objects in them that will then get blocked from ever appearing in Pokemon Go.

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I do not want to talk about ToS violation[mod can delete this comment] but this would make voting circle significantly easier…

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If people want to do that, they’re going to find a way regardless. It’s not like the current bar is very high anyway. What’s the minimum Pokemon Go level required at now? 35? Back when I started, it was 40. Took you 20 million XP. To hit level 35, it only takes 6 million XP. They already cut the requirements by over 66%. Reaching level 35 is a breeze with Lucky Eggs and a full friend list of people sending you gifts.

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