BUT this comment is the undoing as it relies on people not being influenced by what they see in game or the examples in showcase of clear epic fails..It assumes people bother with reading rules, reading guidelines, participating in forums. IT assumes much in the people who play the system.
““This is not to be viewed as a change in Wayspot criteria or guidelines””
It also creates precedents. What if I am in a so called desert and there are no street corners (before everyone laughs at me I know many a country hamlet/small village that are strings of houses along the road. Say only a bus stops. Does that mean Niantic will find other previous Coal objects and use those
That said. I do like the idea from your “no fee” consultant @SlimboyFat71
Taking that suggestion. If you have identified your deserts you can then identify nominations from non deserts and auto reject
Have to have thoughts around it. So taking a bus stop as a future feature you will use. In Australia the attempted bus stop nominations often use the bus route map as the POI. So I hope the Emily insipired smarts can recognise the wool being pulled over thy eyes by people in non deserts.
What is a desert? Nothing for a kilometre/mile. Two miles. Must have a minimum of 2 houses… Hmmmmmm
As the system already uses S2 cells and in the same way that a L14 cell is a grid of 64 L17 cells, L13 is 4 x L14s or L12 is 16 x L14s.
To avoid adding to just a single empty S14 cell that may be packed in the cells around it I would suggest that they use one of the larger cells something like Empty L14 cell with a maximum 4 waypoints in the S13 cell.
I still think that the biggest worry (apart from non forum users deciding they now meet criteria) is the risk that the “coal” could prevent a future good nomination.
With so many people care little for criteria - particularly if chasing medals or wanting stuff outside house or just because they can nominate stuff and put it in…
Then the battle being fought to maintain some level of quality is going to become so much harder as people will see massive quantities of coal and go those are OK to nominate and those are OK to accept.
Sigh
On another note. Made me think .. ER Royal Mail Postboxes. Will they in deserts with no street corners or Bus Stops become eligible. Going to be so interesting…
Would probably be better if any imported “coal” did not include a descriptive title instead just using something such as “Temporary Imported Waypoint”?
The more I think about it. The more it makes sense. Just have Official Waypoints. That do not have photos of anything. They just have a logo representing an Official Waypoint. Then when a real one comes into the map it can blip out.
So not even an imported waypoint. That way no Coal. No influence on bad WayPoints that influence users.
Just a really simple feature that creates the waypoint in an appropriate spot (be it bus stop, street corner, postbox, telephone box, village square/green/pond, public footpath (not one along a road - you know those random paths to somewhere etc etc) but the image is just an official waypoint logo. Using appropriate non descriptive text that does not influence anyone…
Also ich finde das Kreuzungen und Bushaltestellen nicht gut sind. In Großstädten siehst dann nur noch sowas. Das macht die ganze Arbeit des entdecken zu nichte, die sich wirklich bemüht haben vieles zu finden.
Oh me too, wasn’t sure if this was correct but I didn’t feel either meet criteria, but equally I think photo reviews dont remove anything that already exists, so kind of pointless
Should these photo additions be rejected because the POI doesn’t meet criteria, or should the photo be accepted if the photo itself doesn’t meet rejection reasons?
Great question! I had previously suggested on WDD that I would recommend evaluating them like any photo addition to an existing Wayspot. I would love to have staff confirmation on this, and even happier if the answer is that they should be rejected because the poi does not meet criteria.