Quick rant, the title pretty much explains it. This is a Wayspot that was somehow approved in my area:
I will note that, in a twist of irony, this Wayspot is not eligible to appear in Pokemon GO because it shares a level 17 S2 cell with an existing Pokestop. Anyway, I submitted an edit to simply remove “Pokemon GO” from the description. Sure, the grammar is a bit choppy, but it was like that in the original description too. After it being in regular voting for 2 months, it suddenly switched to Niantic Voting, where it was promptly rejected.
At least the existing Wayspot description has the correct accent over the é.
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I do not think they should be using the AI to decide text edits.
I have to assume it was AI. Don’t I?
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Well, Niantic Voting is the marker for a human in house reviewer to intervene - no AI involved here
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How did this not get a quick accept in community review and then get rejected by human reviewers? Irrelevant game references not being allowed is one of the things we don’t even argue about on the forum!
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Ugh, yeah, Niantic Voting does make some really bad mistakes. I’ve had it happen before, so whenever I see a submission go into Niantic Voting, I just never know what to expect.
However, I do believe that ML is looking at older submissions, as I had a couple location edits in regular voting for about 2 months; both were in areas with very few reviewers in the community. I never saw them as in Niantic Voting, but one day last month, they were decided upon by “our team.”
So, I’m thinking that ML does look at older submissions after about 2 months if there hasn’t been enough votes from the community. Niantic hasn’t confirmed this, but from what I’ve experienced with edits recently, it makes some sense.
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So… …either Niantic has done a terrible job of communicating with their staff, or they neglected to include their criteria when training the AI.
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Or they just don’t communicate things to us.
Think about it…It could be why we haven’t had a global challenge since May…
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I will note that, in my case, 1 location edit was approved, as it did need to be moved from outside of a picnic pavilion to the center, whereas the other was such a minor move on a footbridge that it was rejected. I do think that ML looks at what the community has voted on so far, and bases its decision off of them.
Some reviewers don’t care much about description edits, even if the old one is ineligible or just really bad.
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How long ago was it rejected?
It could be that it was fixed, but not yet deployed, making your change superfluous, but also not yet visible.
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It shows on their post that it was rejected today, Oct 6th.
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This is a great theory, but that screenshot that ScrawnyMeowth posted is from a plug-in that shows the live description.
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They submitted the edit on July 31st, and it was rejected today. The email says the edit was submitted on July 31st, 2024, whereas the plug-in says it was rejected on 2024-10-6, which is Oct 6th, 2024.
Niantic uses year-month-day dating in Contribution Management, with is YYYY-MM-DD. The email uses month-day-year, or MM-DD-YYYY. The exception is the Last Modified date in Contribution Management, which doesn’t really mean much.
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It was actually rejected on October 4th, I just didn’t pull it up on my computer until today so the plug-in didn’t have a chance to update
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Technically, it is a great place to hang out and play Pokémon GO.
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So… Do reviewers get a disagreement since it was pulled from community reviewers, or how exactly would this scenario work, @NianticThibs?
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Apparently not since the Wayspot doesn’t appear in PoGO. A great place to play Ingress maybe
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it doesn’t apply in this instance:
But, I have had edits where the description is up for edit but the photo has not been updated. So it cannot be accepted really as the new wording applies to a new photo. The trouble is that the review you are doing shows the old photo …
Anyone surprised ???
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The photo that is shown to reviewers is the current main photo in PoGO. In order to change it, you have to give the new photo a bunch of upvotes in PoGO. Often you’ll have to give it many more votes than the current main photo has, in order to overcome the hidden votes that were added from Ingress
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Actually, the photo shown during title/description/location edits is the main photo currently in Lightship. Upvotes in both PoGo and Ingress can change the main Lightship image, but if there aren’t any upvotes on any of the images in either game, it’s usually the image provided when the Wsyspot was added to Lightship. Imported Wayspots may not even have an image, and will show a generic image place holder.
Also, I think @Buddy12875 may be describing trying to edit an existing Wayspot to when the place has changed, such as a change in business. We’re not supposed to edit Wayspots if they have changed, but instead request removal and then submit a new Wayspot once temoved if still eligible. Edits can only be done in certain instances, such as a change in a mural.
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I’ve always wondered if something was in community voting long enough and then Niantic picks it up of they look at the current voting and push a decision based on that or of they actually look at it and make the best decision. I’ve had a few edits where I remove the word “new” from a description, since it’s not new anymore, and it gets rejected, but if I appeal it it will get accepted.
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