Among the photos that meet the Wayfarer criteria, there is an illustration of an apparently objectionable photo, and do you have any plans to change it? Most of the photos include a third-party photo or body part.
A picture of a third party or a part of the body is clearly a wayspot of rejection.
People can be in the photo, so long as they are not identifiable, unavoidable and not the subject of the photo, posing or to distracting.
Hello,
When it comes to body parts, it has to be easy to tell who the person is when looking at the photo in full. Being this is the back of someone’s head, I can’t tell who they are, and I doubt most others would as well.
As for the third party one, I can’t tell it’s third party, unless I do a image search on it. I can’t see anything making any of these third party, plus, they are only to be taken as examples of places that may be eligible, not eligible photos.
It is stated as a rejection criterion if the subject in a photo that is inappropriate for Wayfarer’s standards includes a person, a body part, or a living animal. Nevertheless, does it have to be approved as a Wayspot even if it includes a third party or body part or a living animal?
Hello @Royalgeu !
I’m inclined to believe the photos in the eligibility page are for illustrative purposes only for what objects can be eligible but not as submission photos itself as @DTrain2002 has said. It is not confirmed whether these images were taken by Niantic staff or outsourced from stock sites.
I wouldn’t even accept this as the main photo, there is no focal point for what seems to be a cafe? restaurant? seating? idk.
I would also reject this if this was the main photo, as the women are identifiable. I find it likely that the guy is posing for this shot as he is centered and well lined up to the building’s façade.
These are marginal. The top either is deliberate or just a dude taking cover under the shade (not identifiable IMO). The bottom seems more likely someone caught in frame but not deliberate nor identifiable.
Rejection criteria page shows: “includes people, body parts, or live animals as the subject matter”
Content Guidelines > Photo Guidelines shows: “includes people, body parts, or live animals”
Help > Photo Guidelines shows: " Includes prominent people, body parts, or live animals"
I get how it is confusing but IMO deliberate inclusion of objects or people, animals, body parts that are unrelated to the submitted are valid rejections.
Accidental inclusion may vary from “can be improved but serviceable” to a totally valid rejection. Use your best judgement as they say. You might want to post specific examples here and gauge how others would view it as if unsure.
Reject third party photos all day please.
Thank you for your response.
When I apply for Wayspot, I take a picture and apply so that a third party’s photo or body part does not come out as much as possible.
Alternatively, you can utilize the gallery’s AI eraser function.
Despite the obvious reasons for rejection, even if it was unintentionally taken, I thought that Wayspot was not qualified, so I uploaded it.
Most of the turrets approved in Ingress appear as Wayspot in Pokémon Go, but there are quite a few old photos with lots of people.
Perhaps if you apply for deletion to the Wayfarer team, it will be included in the obvious reason for rejection and will be deleted, but I do not apply for deletion because it is clear that it is an act that will not help many explorers.
I will refuse it for the same reason if it falls under the above content when proceeding with the review in the future.
Once again, thank you for your response.
@Royalgeu to clarify, “third-party photos” are images taken from the web or other sources (not taken by the submitter). It is the photo itself that is the problem for that rejection, not the contents of the photo.
This just came up in a conversation. This incorrect guideline was several places for years because of a copying error that left off “as the subject matter”. This has been quietly corrected everywhere I know that it was stated, at least in English. Even this link says it that way for me now:
Thank you.
It is a fact that we know that the third party’s photo was taken by someone else.
However, it can be interpreted that it is also a picture of a third party that contains an unrelated person.
The Wayfarer Photography Guidelines in Korea include photos that can identify people, body parts, or living animals, faces, vehicle license plates, etc. in Do not submit the following images.
However, it says that it can be rejected, so it may not be rejected.
This is because the corresponding photos are approved and appear according to the judge’s judgment.
I wonder how the learned Emily will judge this.
I wouldn’t even follow the Criteria page on the Wayfarer website, especially since it doesn’t reflect the current criteria outlined in the Help Center website, or the Help section itself.
If you go to the Eligibility Criteria page in the Help Center, they no longer display example photos. I feel that eventually the photos on the Wayfarer website in the Criteria section will be removed to reflect the Criteria sections in the Help Center.
By the way, the Help Center website tends to be better updated than the help and criteria sections on the Wayfarer website. I think that’s why there’s a link to it at the top of every page here in the forums.
Thank you for sharing! Saying “that can identify” seems like a good way to put it to me, but can you suggest a better phrasing Niantic could use to indicate the “prominent” idea?
The Wayfarer Help Center website you mentioned also contains the subject of people, body parts, or living animals, including screenshots of other people’s photos as ineligible photo number 5.
Thank you!
It contains the subject, but not the photos.
Again, with photos, if you can see someone’s face and easily recognize them when looking at the full photo, it should be rejected. If an animal is the focal point of a photo and not the place submitted (for example, someone nominated a dog park but made their dog the focal point of the photo), that should be rejected.
It is up to your best judgment to determine if the main photo meets criteria or not, just like with the rest of the criteria. If you feel you would be able to recognize a person by the bad of their head (I sure wouldn’t be able to), then you are welcome to reject it.
Again, use your best judgment.
The word “identifiable in Korea” is interpreted to mean that you can discern and recognize it. Therefore, if something that can be identified is included, it becomes a reason for rejection in Wayfarer’s examination.
However, as I said above, it may not be rejected because there is a saying in parentheses that it may be rejected.
It’s up to the judge’s judgment.
A better expression of being identifiable is difficult to suggest.
Thank you for your good response!
