I can’t wrap my head around this rejection. This is a cemetery from 1725, there is a sign for it in the picture from the historic society, it’s labeled properly in Google maps and yet it was labeled a sensitive location. It’s right off a main road as well and has it’s own parking lot with a information sign.
Here is the clarification on cemeteries:
Unless I am presented with evidence that this is a tourist attraction, I tend to reject cemeteries as sensitive locations as well.
I would submit the information sign instead of the cemetery.
Did you include any links in your supporting?
I am also having trouble locating this on Maps to take a better look at the area.
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This is a link to it on Google maps https://maps.app.goo.gl/ftshEg2GmMjB3qo8A
The sign to the right is the one that says quality cemetery the one to the left gives detailed information about the cemetery and when it was founded along with information on the building nearby
I’m not seeing the signs in the map link. I do see the google tag for the cemetery.
Weird, for some reason it picked a spot around the corner rather than where I zoomed in on street view.
Did you provide all of that information? If so, great. If not, it’s not really the responsibility of the reviewer to track down your nomination on Google maps and then to follow links. Certainly it’s good if people can, but you really want to present your reviewers with all the most important information upfront. If only, you add the links in your supplementary information, for example.
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I can understand modern cemeteries being sensitive sure, anything in the 1900’s. But how far removed would any relative be to a cemetery from 1725 that very clearly is in disuse for a very long time? I think people are just blasting through nominations to get points in the tracker. I don’t even know what the “upgrades” are but it seems to be a motivating force to just fly through nominations.
It’s really hard to tell without seeing your supplementary information. The sign in the description doesn’t indicate that the cemetery is from the 1700s. And, there are probably cemeteries in the US that date back to the 1700s that are still in use.
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This is all I could find easily:
There graves in this cemetery are not marked. It is located on the right side of the driveway on the site of the former American Legion Post #425. The site does not get mowed, and resembles a meadow.
There are no records of who is buried here. This is a town-owned cemetery. This is the older of the two Friends/Quaker cemeteries in Assonet. The “newer” Assonet Friends Cemetery is located about 3 miles north of this location.
The cemetery is listed on Map 214 Lot 12 of the Freetown Assessors Property Maps.
The Massachusetts Historical Commission does not refer to this cemetery in MACRIS.
This cemetery is not referred to in the Bristol County Massachusetts Cemeteries Database.
Okay I found the sign. I think reviewers saw “Cemetery” and rejected straight away. I don’t see your supporting, but you really need to convince that this is an historic site worth visiting. A few options for you:
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Appeal. You can submit extra information about the importance of the site. But you only get 2 appeals, each on a 20 day timer before you can use it again, so choose wisely.
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Resubmit the cemetery sign. I don’t see your original title, but if you need to use the same photos again, be sure the title includes something to let reviewers know this is old, probably “Historic Quaker Hill Cemetery”. Then be careful with your description. I see the city and the state weren’t capitalized. Those mistakes should not mean rejection, but will have reviewers thinking this is a lower quality nomination, and you want them leaning the other way. Include any interesting information you come across for this site in the description. Hopefully there is a lot of stuff you can use from the sign.
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Submit the information sign. I find historical markers for a cemetery easier accepts than the cemetery itself. I can’t really see what it looks like on street view, so you will need to use your best judgement irl.
As for using the upgrade, be sure to wait at least 24 hours to see if the ML (machine learning ai) model decides the nomination before you apply it. I would recommend showing us the new nomination while you have it on hold so we can make any edit suggestions if you go that route.
I found the same reference that Leedle95 did, which doesn’t make it sound all that interesting: Assonet Old Quaker Cemetery in Freetown, Massachusetts - Find a Grave Cemetery
As for not being a place for recently bereaved folks to be mourning, that is not required for a place to be sensitive. Burial spots should always be treated with dignity and respect.
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Much appreciated. Honestly I think part of the problem ( after using another more modern app to submit waypoints) is that ingress has received little in the line of improvements to the portal submission. It crashed frequently while in the middle of submissions and only allows one additional photo. I hear Pokemon go is better, but I am not of sufficient level in that to see.
Oh I only submit with Ingress because it is so much better imo. I never submit on site though, so maybe that is the issue. I can’t really see my photos very well out in the sunshine, so I come home and review them, and crop, straighten, and otherwise slightly adjust as needed, then remotely submit. Then I submit on my home wifi. Ingress has such a longer range for remote submitting, and I don’t have to choose categories! (At least not yet 
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If you submitted something through that Wayfarer app, don’t expect it to ever show up in any game. And those Lightship only locations will be duplicates to nominations made through the games. I know they occasionally do show up in game, but we have been asked not to use it.
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Ya I stopped using the wayfarer app, I still think it’s significant better than the process built into ingress. It has never crashed on me. I now use it to see if portals are ready for overclocking or if they need more scans and roughly when a scan needs to happen. It would be nice if such information was in ingress. I guess the theory is that there are so many players it’s bound to happen, well, where I am I think there are a dozen players in a 50 mile radius.