@BlanketHogg sorry you’re experiencing this - when my rating dropped due to an issue during a challenge a while ago I was devastated so I do know how you feel. Luckily mine is back to great now.
My recommendation is that you can use the skip function to avoid reviewing anything in the middle ground at the moment while recovering your rating. Also use of “I dont know" can be helpful
I would look for reviews to complete where you are sure that there’s a “right answer” according to the criteria. For example play areas that you can see on satellite and aren’t already a PoI are very likely to give agreements for accepting, and similarly playgrounds pinned on someones back yard are very likely to give an agreement for a rejection!
I would try to review a handful a day where you are really confident that you have voted according to the criteria and monitor your progress towards an upgrade. If its ticking upwards regularly then you’re probably doing well. Hopefully over the next few weeks your rating will rise and you can continue to review and maybe take on more of a range as you see the improvements
If you’re hitting the skip cap, to be honest I think you’re reviewing too much in one go - we get a LOT of skips.
Would try instead to do maybe 10 or 15 per day and stop, and check that your numbers are going up steadily as things resolve
Also if you would like more support reviewing, we have a Wayfarer Discord group and have people who will be happy to help with any tricky reviews which can be really helpful at times!
I believe it’s 100 within 24 hours. The Skip button is ghosted out so you can continue to Review but can not Skip.
I use a lot as there are a specific type of nomination that is often “impossible” to confirm the location. Supporters of these may state that “if it is possible that it is there you should Accept” but you don’t use this argument for other types of nominations.
It is something that is regularly Accepted so I would not Reject but by Skipping I leave it to others who feel confident enough to make the decision.
I have found myself in a position that I have much more time on my hands and Wayfarer is one of the ways to fill it.
Don’t think there is a difference to doing 15 in 30 minutes than doing 60 in 2 hours. I don’t see any repercussions with my account from doing many more than you suggest…
The repercussion is that if you’re needing to rethink how you review, due to a poor rating that you want to improve, time allows the feedback to come in, in the form of agreements and upgrade counter movement.
Doing too much too quickly means you’re not getting the feedback and also not waiting for some resolutions before adding more to the pipeline.
Having a poor rating means something has gone wrong, and some of the votes were rated as incorrect at some point. So re-aligning to the criteria and getting feedback is really the only way to keep track of the direction before we see a step up to the “fair” category
Yeah, basically if something is wrong, you need to see if you’re fixing it!
Small sets of reviews and monitoring while they resolve and agreements come in can help avoid loading a lot more reviews into the system that may be contributing to the poor rating.
I would also encourage asking for advice (after the fact, as it wont be fast enough during thr review) by posting difficult reviews here and asking for advice from the ambassadors and other experienced wayfarers
Again, this is a documentation and transparency issue, in my view.
It never came back up because I stopped reviewing entirely under the impression that my rating had been locked at poor. I have no evidence to the contrary because there is no documentation or clear feedback- and without that there is no incentive to offer free labor.
Yes and other interactions with the page. Click the potential duplicates. Click the nomination title. Zoom in and out. Click the bottom left of the map (or a label on the map) to open in another tab. Expand an information text. Not everything on every nomination, but something.
The technology (code) to track what someone does on a page… is probably 20 years old. IOW now it’s cheap and everyone does it. With emails too. If you’re a member of something that sends emails (for example a church newsletter), ask the person in charge: how many people open the email, how far does the average reader scroll, and do people follow the links? They’ll know.
So I’ve done as suggested and reviewed a few stops each day.
still no progress.
I’ve also skipped liberally seeking agreements and slam dunks. For example, I just skipped a university residence. In addition to not meeting criteria, the nomination also pointed out that the neighboring residences are “already stops (sic)”! So it also could have (and should be) rejected for influencing reviewers. But, since I want to demonstrate what a great reviewer I am, I have to skip this one (and many others) because the broader community of reviewers evidently does not know or care to apply criteria accurately.
overall I feel completely disempowered to participate in anything that might resemble a community. The generic advice from niantic here again lacks transparency or anything that approaches direct feedback.
I’m only able to do a handful of reviews a day because so many submissions are of such low quality in one way or another, there’s little to be gained in reviewing them honestly. Instead I pretend to click around as if it isn’t immediately obvious that the poi should be rejected because someone (not part of niantic) suggested that’s how the system evaluates me as an evaluator.
Did you see the progress towards an upgrade moving with your few reviews?
A university residence could contain eligible items/areas such as a common room/ social space. I wouldn’t call that statement about the other residences having stops influencing reviewers (after all, we can see that info on the duplicate map!!), possibly just a wayfarer who doesn’t read the forums and doesn’t know that the supporting info should be about how things relate to the criteria.
Hang on in there.
This is my view based on a similar frustrating experience a few years ago.
Making decisions on only a few is good tactic. I did only do 3-5.
Make a detailed note of your numbers, and the upgrade wheel. What I has looking for before I reviewed again was positive movement on the wheel to show I was getting agreements and if I didn’t get any then I left it for a day or maybe just did 1 or 2.
I got there you can too.
A simple submission saying hall of residence is exactly the same as block of flats so in its self is not acceptable. But I think it is something that currently you could avoid and skip.
I don’t think saying there are already some approved is influencing reviewers. They have simply “wasted” that text space.
ive had two dozen or so agreements in the past week. It’s likely all of the submissions since they’re slam dunks. I’m staying away from: trail markers, any business, business park signs, little libraries, virtually anything that confuses reviewers even if I know the criteria like the back of my hand.
I just gave the residence example because I know that it could meet criteria. The argument that it should based on the other newly constructed residences already having POI is understandable, but using pokemon go terminology has long been a sticking point for a lot of wayfarers for whatever reason, and criteria say (or did when I read them) that this ought to be regarded as “influencing” (ie this should be a gym/stop because we need more/nearby bad example is already in pokemon go).
They ought to have a training module for reviewers to guide what it is they are looking for because the existing documentation is spread thin rather than centralized.
when I started last fall I did probably a hundred oR more per day. I have reviewed about 2200 and have about 1400 agreements- even split in agreements and rejections with 100 dupes.
I stopped when my rating tanked but I had about 400 agreements or more clear after that from my backlog. It was always excellent, I think one day it dipped to ‘good’ when I maxed out on skips and did sooo many. So I slowed down. It went back up to excellent as the ones I reviewed cleared and Then one day it went to poor and never bounced back. The ratio of agreements remained constant - the rate also seemed consistent day to day that they’d clear.
really frustrating that my account appears locked and they won’t reset my stats or tell me what happened.
Hi @BlanketHogg
Sorry to hear that the suggestions didn’t work for you.
You now have tried:
only make 5-10 reviews each day
wait for in coming progress on the wheel
take your time for each and click around
skip if you’re not sure to be in line with the community vote
Correct?
Have you already tried to avoid your plugins?
Reviewing manually for a few days?
It seems to be a good time to jump on again because we can see some reports that the ML has some problems and more easy decisions are in the pool (if the observations are correct).
