Reverse that

Is there too much emphasis placed on the supporting text over the description when nominating?

Ultimately the description will remain on the map so should I be more… descriptive.

Would it be more useful to have these reversed so that players can actually read the interesting bit of the poi. Minus the link and the what a great guy bit. I was obviously bored when I was writing the support.

Description
Dedication to the Richmond brewer who fought for the public right of access to Richmond Park

Support
The free use of Richmond Park has been contested between the public and wealthy landowners since Charles I. In the 1750’s Princess Amelia attempted to stop all public access. Lewis, a local brewer, fought and won in court for his right to use the park. The park remains open to the public to this day. What a great guy :slight_smile: John Lewis black plaque | Open Plaques

Description
History of the Dairy that once stood here with original 1910 shop front tiling

Support
Founded in the 1890’s the Maypole Dairy became on of the UK’s largest Dairy companies. Their ornate shop designs and tiling made them a stand out sight on the UK’s streets. This shop is located on what is now a Heart and Stroke charity shop in Morningside, Edinburgh. ‘Shop-Coolness and Counter-Cleanliness’: The Legacy of the Maypole Dairy Co | Building Our Past

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So I would split it between them - reviewers should be using both boxes to judge. If you think it’s interesting, stick it in the description box (obviously no urls). The supporting info is for the above and beyond info - the stuff that’s only relevant to the reviewer - eg links, why you think it should go in (eg I think it’s the best x in town, my friends and I go here regularly to catch up and it’s really busy, great place to learn the history of x, etc).

I tend to go heavier on the description as that’s what will be seen in the games, especially if it’s an interesting place with a lot to say. Any clarifications, proof or links then go in the supporting for me.

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It seems there is a tendency, which I do too, to make the description and support say roughly the same thing but worded differently.

Should the reviewers be using the description to judge as that what the support is for?

They can judge the quality of the description as a thing in itself but maybe not in relation to the nomination.

Once the submission is through the system the support is irrelevant but the description will last barring edits.

I was told on here once that I should have put things from my supporting info into the description, and then maybe it would have been accepted?! I mean, the description is optional so that shouldn’t make a difference! But it does speak to the quality of the nom I guess - we use the whole thing to help us decide.

I don’t think there is a correct or incorrect way. I’m just interested in the thinking behind it :slight_smile:

For example The Maypole Dairy above would surely have been better with

Description
History of the Dairy that once stood here with original 1910 shop front tiling. Founded in the 1890’s the Maypole Dairy became on of the UK’s largest Dairy companies. Their ornate shop designs and tiling made them a stand out sight on the UK’s streets

What if my description and support were identical but with an added link in the support?

Do you think reviewers would be happy with that?

Are they ever happy with anything?

I find it frustrating to just read the same s*** twice - surely use the boxes wisely to get as much info in as you can!

I don’t like it when description and support are the same.

It feels mass produced for me

Sorry about the swear word - didn’t think at all as I was typing it! I did just try to edit it, but soneone already did.

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No, Wayfarers are annoying people.

Which would be preferable?

Description
History of the Dairy that once stood here with original 1910 shop front tiling

Support
Founded in the 1890’s the Maypole Dairy became on of the UK’s largest Dairy companies. Their ornate shop designs and tiling made them a stand out sight on the UK’s streets. This shop is located on what is now a Heart and Stroke charity shop in Morningside, https://buildingourpast.com/2016/03/25/shop-coolness-and-counter-cleanliness-the-legacy-of-the-maypole-dairy-co/

Description
History of the Dairy that once stood here with original 1910 shop front tiling. Founded in the 1890’s the Maypole Dairy became on of the UK’s largest Dairy companies. Their ornate shop designs and tiling made them a stand out sight on the UK’s streets

Support
This shop is located on what is now a Heart and Stroke charity shop in Morningside, Edinburgh. Great way to finish it about the areas historyhttps://buildingourpast.com/2016/03/25/shop-coolness-and-counter-cleanliness-the-legacy-of-the-maypole-dairy-co/

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I would have to think a long while if I’d have this into review. How likely the history behind is, current you won’t find it. The current useness comes me a bit to short. I hope you understand what I mean.

Cute POI

When you have so much good stuff for the description, maybe just inform the reviewers about the Explore Architecture point and provide confirming URL?

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I’m going to put more emphasis on the description from now on and just use support to clarify the reasons for meeting criteria :+1:

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There is no set way
I like the balance in version 2.
Enough in The description to provide an insight into what is there and why go there.
And the other text gives the extra that a reviewer specifically might need.