Road signs that are memorials

Jeg finner det merkelig hvordan teamet avslår anker. Jeg har nominert 2 mulige spots, begge avvist på grunn av at teamet mener det er vanlige veiskilt. Det er det, men de er også til minne om offentlige personer (det står litt om når de levde, døde og hva de er kjent for)

Samtidig ser jeg stopp av helt samme karakter, som jo følgelig er godkjent.

Legger her ved et godkjent stopp:

Så legger jeg ved 2 nominasjoner som ikke er godkjent siden teamet mener de er vanlige skilt uten historisk betydning:

@Manima007 It would have been better to create a new topic than jump onto an existing one especially one that has been marked as resolved. These are borderline submissions. Some reviewers think they are just street furniture, some think they are special because they reference an important event or person. This is why they will often be rejected.

You haven’t said who approved/rejected the nominations. Was it “our team” or “the community”. The former is Niantic/Scopely; the latter is reviewers like you and me.

Hello and welcome @Manima007

It is often unclear where the best place is post your queries. as this appears to be about some specific nominations I am creating a topic in Nomination support.

If you can post the full details of each nomination and what the rejection said we can try to help.

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Beklager, jeg fant ikke ut hvordan jeg skulle lage eget innlegg (er godt voksen dame).

Første gang jeg la ut, var det “deg og meg” som avviste, jeg gjorde noen endringer på bildene så de ble bedre (tok nye bilder). Jeg anket, så da avslo niantic med bakgrunn av vanlig skilt.

Det jeg synes er problematisk, er at det gjøres forskjell på hva som godkjennes eller ikke, selv om det er “samme” gjenstand. Virker nesten som litt BINGO når de vurderer anker. Blir litt oppgitt og mister lysten på å nominere noe jeg antar og mener må bli godtatt, med bakgrunn i hva som tidligere er godtatt og blitt til stopp/gym

Jeg mener å ha lest i retningslinjer at slike skilt som er oppkalt etter kjente personer (med utfyllende tekst) kan regnes som noe med informativ og historisk verdi.

Welcome to the forum,

There is a common statement on these forums that you should never take what is in the game as what is acceptable now.

Criteria has changed over the years and sometimes things are accepted that shouldn’t be.

Your options are to either re-submit if you are really convinced that the nomination meets criteria or move on to something different.

If you ask and give your general location people will take a look and suggest nominations that have a better chance of being accepted.

One thing to consider is how common are the “signs with memorials”, if they are on all / most signs in the area they are not distinct.

I am not sure where in the guidelines that appears, if it does, but it would never be a black-and-white rule. It isn’t possible for guidelines to cover every possibility. A plaque that exists solely to reference a historical person is very different to a road sign that also references a historical person. The former is generally eligible, the latter is often not eligible. Signs in between these extremes will vary in eligibility.

As @SlimboyFat71 said, the more of these road signs (that have a named person on them) there are in an area, the less notable they are. It would be good to find other things to submit, because focusing on one controversial category is going to be discouraging if you are certain they should all go in but the reviewers think otherwise.

(I’ve seen submissions for road signs that are simply the name of a road that is possibly named after a famous person, such as (making this up) “Churchill Avenue”. Those are junk, whereas yours are merely borderline at best.)

I was basing my comment on a review where someone nominated a street sign that included the village / town / regions crest (can’t remember which), this is not typical in the UK but street view showed that every street sign in the estate had them.

1 off = possible accept.

Every sign = Not a chance…

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They’re uncommon in the UK, but I have seen them. I know of one case where there’s an entire huge development with similar signs.

Streets and roads are generally named after SOMETHING and often SOMEONE. But if there’s a “Victoria Road” named after Queen Victoria, it does not make it notable. The explanation on these signs as to who they are named after also does not confer notability in my view. On the other hand, a memorial (e.g. a statue) to these people would likely be notable, or some unique artwork on the signs themselves.

Vanlige gateskilt er ex: “Victoria Street”. Dette er jo ikke bemerkelsesverdig.

Mine nominasjoner er oppkalt etter kjente mennesker, men har i tillegg har de tilleggsinformasjon som hva de er kjent for, når de levde etc.

Alle skilt har ikke disse extra opplysningene.

Jeg skjønner hva mange av dere mener. Likevel holder jeg på min mening, som er at enhver gateskilt som er oppkalt etter en kjent og betydningsfull person er spesiell all den tid skiltet inneholder utfyllende informasjon om perso en som for eksempel hva de er kjent for og når de levde.

Et gatenavnskilt som “Carl Oscar street” er ikke spesielt. Men inneholder overnevne skilt informasjon om hva han er kjent for og når han levde, er spesielt og noe som er verd et stopp.

As per @Mystogan5097, @SlimboyFat71 and @shritwod , what is important is how many of these there are in an area.

They certainly don’t meet social or exercise, so only potentially qualify through the Exploration category.

When every road (or nearly every, or most) is named after a famous and significant person with additional information, they stop being special. People are barely going to notice them, because they are just part of the street furniture, and they are not going to be telling their friends about this interesting street sign.

Maybe one or two in an area, about exceptionally historic people, would be seen as acceptable.

The comment from @SlimboyFat71 about a village/town where every street sign had a special crest on it is very close to what you are describing. One crest, possibly worth accepting. Beyond that, no.

Her et nok et stopp som er godkjent i løpet av de siste dagene:

Så derfor består min argumentasjon om at mine må bli godkjent.

Det å si at en nominasjon som ligner mine, er ok om et gjelder et skilt, blir som å si at en statue i hver by er ok, men ikke alle.

You find far fewer statues in a city than you do street names. Not comparable, even leaving aside the exploration issue.

You should never take what is in the map as to what is acceptable.

As stated above if this is common thing in your area then I personally would reject as “Not Distinct”. If it is rare then it could be acceptable but it would be down to the submitter to show evidence that this is the case.

All you have shown with highlighting the other similar sign is that this is not a unique sign.

Maybe the other showed evidence that it is indeed rare, maybe it was accepted when it shouldn’t have been.

There is no must about it…

It seems you are actually discussing a previously accepted stop that was then removed, this could be reported as Not Distinct that staff agreed or it could have been reported by local land owner if problems have occurred.

If you was appealing a nomination that had been Rejected by the community then you have the choice to appeal or re-submit.

If the community has a walking tour of these signs, your Supporting Information could include a link to the official description of that tour. For example, maybe the tour starts next to City Hall, and walks around four blocks, stopping at each sign.

If no one ever goes to the sign for the purpose of reading it… It’s hard to see how it’s a destination for exploration, socialization, or exercise.