There has already been a discussion about the fact that a regular business like a restaurant/cafe/store should be accompanied by supporting information about why it is important in contrast to other similar businesses. But what if there is no accompanying information or it is incomplete?
It is always on the submitter to convince you. Use your best judgement. I refer folks to this clarification when trying to help them frame a submission or review a nomination:
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Cafes are not an automatic acceptance. I have had several reviews where the submission is basically “cafe” with nothing else except a name. No attempt to say it’s a popular or good cafe, let alone providing evidence of this. I reject these.
I think it’s probably up to the individual reviewer, sometimes I will accept things even if there is a generic description if I am sure it is locally or culturally significant, but most often I will not accept if it seems generic. Sometimes I see when people resubmit something with better info and then I happily accept
Here are 3 cafe submissions I’ve done. I don’t usually write much, and I often include the wording from their signage in my description. Sometimes I write more than others in the supporting information. I don’t think you always need as much detail as everyone recommends, sometimes the venue says enough with a simple nomination.
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thank you for these examples. if i implied that “convince” = “use a lot of words” that was not my intention.
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I think that’s a common interpretation, I also think people sometimes can try too hard, and then it looks like why are you having to try so hard? It’s a difficult one. I just thought sharing my examples might be helpful. I quite enjoy submitting these kinds of places, even though some of these wjll never show in games because they’re too close to other things
The first nomination has no intention of convincing at all. If the supporting statement did not contain anything useful for the nomination, I would reject it. The rest of them actually look interesting. This is a really good example that it doesn’t always take a lot of words to convince.
The first cafe, I used their own subheading from their sign as the description. I like to do that sometimes. This was the supporting. I am glad you liked the other examples
What would you say about such a nomination?
The translation of the description is as follows:
“A cozy bakery with a summer terrace serving fresh signature baked goods.”
In my opinion, all these words look like epithets, but nothing more.
I have a problem with the cafes with minimal descriptions partly because of one near me that looks fine from the outside but has pretty bad reviews on google, even allowing for the necessary filtering you have to do to establish which reviews are real.
I was going to submit it, but then the reviews put me off from being able to say it was a nice place to come to eat.
Because of this, I’m a little wary of cafes that could be similar. I may be being unfair. One of the lowest quality cafes I went to, a little greasy spoon in a little suburb, was busy. No idea of its google reviews, but it was well-liked by the locals.
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The summer terrace is actually relevant, because it definitely makes it a space to sit down and be social in.
I wouldn’t reject for the description.
Having said that, it doesn’t convince me, especially when I can’t see the terrace (maybe it shows on satellite or supporting image). Since they mentioned a terrace I wanna be able to see that somewhere.
I would be more convinced if they said its known for a really good Victoria sponge cake as a specific example rather than general “baked goods”
There is nothing special about it; about 1/3 of the establishments in this area have a summer terrace.
Being common doesnt matter if it’s a nice feature, and only 1 in 3 doesnt sound that common anyway.
In the UK we have pubs, and they’re a great place to be social, and most have a beer garden, which is relevant and nice to mention. It doesnt detract that it’s common
The summer terrace itself is seasonal and is cleaned in the fall until the warm spring arrives. This is standard practice in our region. We already have snow on the ground, so the terrace was probably already dismantled by the time of the nomination.
I agree that a description of a specific baked good would sound more convincing than this description.
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Aren’t pubs the equivalent of liquor stores and a criterion for rejection?
No, pubs sell food and both soft drinks and alcohol, and children are welcome. They’re excellent places to socialise
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As @frealafgb stated “many” pubs in the UK have transitioned to “Restaurants with a Bar”. The old, what we knew as “workers pubs” where you finished work then went straight to the pub have been the biggest hit by closures.
I will google the webpage, look at the menu for “Kids Meals” or check for other clues such as a play area in the “beer garden” to show that it is “Family Friendly” before accepting.
i did nominate one that I know has Kids Meals but it was rejected and I can’t find anything to confirm, once I do I will re-submit.
Doesn’t stop people nominating none Family Friendly places, had many “Night Clubs” and places that specialise in a certain drink such as Whiskeys. These I reject.