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Unless you can walk on water you cannot reach the statue safely: Google Maps
Maybe people in general cant. But maintenance worker for that fountain can, right?
Criteria states you have to be able to stand safely as a pedestrian at the location of the object, being in a boat is not that.
I think maintenance will drain the pond if some repair is needed. Again i dont know how deep it is . Personally i dont think it will be very deep. Just my opinion. shrug
Thanks for the opinion, but draining a pool of water to reach a wayspot safely is not part of criteria. It might freeze some day as well making it possible to reach it by walking over the ice. There might not always be cars driving around the roundabout. Those are not things that should be considered, for safe pedestrian access.
Well i am interested to see scopely/niantic stance on this. It doesnt seems like roundabout for car. More like big pond. So it seems to fall under “gated community” to me.
The roundabout was just a generic example to show that having occasional safe access is not a criterium, sorry for the confusion. The criteria are quite clear for safe accessibility so.
Just reminding that appeal decisions are not criteria rulings and that they do not establish precedence.
However, there is nothing unusual about such a request, in my observations objects in the middle of ponds frequently get removed.
If I was nominating then I would have taken the whole pond and statue as a Water Feature and pinned it at the edge.
Most fountains would be ineligible if you had to touch the bit in the middle but surely the area of water and whatever holds the water in is part of the feature?
Hi @SlimboyFat71 , @TjoeMi
This is something that has been addressed by the Clarification Collection:
Check it out for the details of how both fountains and these pond aerators are addressed.
I stand corrected, I only had the image in the OP to go with.
Assumed it was something like below.
To get to the actual fountain bit would be unsafe but I would state that the “Pond” and “wall” are all part of the feature???
It’s a problem of placement for a pond nomination. There is no distinct spot for me to nominate a pond.
Feel like I am hijacking the thread (sorry)…
If someone nominated the image in my last post I would accept the whole item as a waypoint. Pin it at the edge where people would stand to view. People will sit on the wall, maybe even dangle their feet in the water during sunnier days.
I am still learning so should it be refused?
That’s what I would do too 
Don’t want to sound argumentative (especially to an Ambassador 
) but even though I have called it fountain / pond / wall I see it all as the fountain. Without the wall all the water would run away, without the pond it would run dry
Is to decline the general consensus or your understanding of it?
I understand where you get a fountain in the middle of a lake then that is definately a “Not Safe”…
The example you showed is fine as that is clearly the fountain as a whole.
The wayspot I am appealing here is a pond with a statue in the middle. No seating around it, so not something you nominate as a whole, so the object in the middle of the water is not safely accessible by pedestrians.
I debated updating my previous answer to add more details. On your fountain 
, I would feel comfortable pinning anywhere. Wall, water, center decor. This is a distinct, singular item. You can even be strategic where you pin if you understand cell inclusion rules. But ultimately as long as the pin is somewhere on the fountain you are fine.
A pond is much larger and has not real distinct ‘spot’. Would I easily be able to identify where someone pinned a pond without looking at the game? Not usually. And obviously pinning the aerator is unsafe for pedestrian access.
I had previously not thought of the fact that “fountain” to “pond” was a spectrum 
Well a fountain sprays water and this example does not so it would anyways be hard to call it a fountain😂
Not debating this example at all - sorry we turned your appeal into pond philosophy
