This wayspot I’m trying to make got rejected and had its appeal rejected because the game thinks it’s a duplicate of another pokestop. In the neighborhood there is a pokestop of a different picnic table and the game thinks that this pokestop is the same picnic table even though it’s completely different.
Wayspot Title: Promenade Apartments Secondary Picnic Table
Hi
This is not the area for this sort of query about an appeal ( it is for specific types) so I will move it to General discussion.
A picnic “area” is a great nomination, but individual picnic tables are usually not.
Is there already a Wayspot there for a different picnic table that may seem like part of the same picnic area to reviewers? I see you mention it in your appeal notes, but I can’t see where it is on the map to see if it should be considered the same “area.”
It’s a fairly newer pokestop so that’s probably why you can’t see it but yeah I guess you could consider it as the same picnic area, I just think that there was enough of a space gap between the two that I could try classify this table as its own picnic area. I just wanted to bring this to the discussion board because it keeps thinking it’s the exact same table even though it just isn’t haha.
I don’t think they think it is the same table. I think they are trying to tell you this is just another part of the Wayspot for the eligible location as a picnic area. But I have not seen the other Wayspot.
If that’s the case then yeah that makes sense. As for you not being able to see the other pokestop I’m not sure why that’s happening. It’s a fairly new pokestop so I’m guessing that’s why it isn’t popping up on whatever your looking at. While I’m talking to you again I guess I should let you know that my Clubhouse Movie Theater pokestop got its appeal accepted back in March when you were helping me out with that, so thanks!
Oh if it was created after May 23, that is when the maps regular Wayfarers could use stopped updating. I am not staff to have access to their data. We are supposed to be getting a map of Wayspots soon!
Good to know! It’s been a little bit now since Scopely bought Pokemon Go from Niantic and I’ve been wondering, is Niantic’s branding and wayfarer system gonna remain in place for the game or is it going to change later? I know your not staff but I’m just wondering cause I haven’t done much research on it.
Great question. As far as I can tell, Scopely bought this piece of Niantic and seems to be keeping everything in place: A message to the “Pokémon GO,” “Pikmin Bloom,” and “Monster Hunter Now” communities
We believe our partnership with the Niantic games team – who will all join Scopely through this acquisition – will further enable them to achieve their exciting long-term goals, which are designed first and foremost with you in mind.
The piece of Niantic they didn’t buy is now “Niantic Spatial,” as in this email for a photo I submitted in Ingress
Change may come, but I don’t expect a drastic departure anytime soon.
I decided to look back at this and I’m pretty sure the team is incorrect on this wayspot being a duplicate. In their rejection notes they say how “We can confirm that there is a Live Wayspot connected to the same picnic table”. I checked Pogo Maps, Ingress Intel Map and In-game and there seems to be no live wayspot on this exact picnic table. They probably think it’s the same one as the already active one, if they look at their backdrop surroundings they could see this isn’t the case. There is a chance they may just consider it as the same picnic area but if they did wouldn’t they mention that? It’s frustrating since I’ve seen other pokestops like obelisks that look similar in appearance and still get accepted. Maybe if I make it clearer to them in the submission that it’s different than the other one it could work. Or as a different idea: if there is somehow a wayspot already on this that isn’t appearing for some reason, would there be a way I could get it to appear?
Don’t get too hung up on the phrasing from Niantic. There are, unfortunately, a lot of text from the wayfarer system that is commonly perceived as poorly phrased. The appeal rejection narratives is a common example of this. Just take away that the rejection was for duplication, which in this case means there is already a very similar object nearby that it is a wayspot, and this wasn’t considered distinct enough to be a separate wayspot.
For picnic benches and tables, it is normally the picnic area that is eligible, not the individual benches, so the first bench is a proxy for the picnic area.
For the obelisks, it depends entirely on what they are and how far apart they are, but artistic features are generally eligible in themselves, not just as part of a wider group.
Yeah I guess it is what it is, and as for my obelisks example: there’s a shopping center I go to sometimes that has an obelisk at each entrance of it and since there’s like 4 entrances, there’s a pokestop made for each one. I think there’s a slight variation in the design of each but besides that they look pretty similar.
I can understand why those were all accepted as separate objects. Each one is at a separate entrance to the shopping centre, so as well as being artistic objects in themselves, they are also acting as proxies for the shopping centre entrance.
Although shopping centres are not perceived by everyone as exciting places, they are consistently somewhere where people go to be social. There are some where people will go for a day out … and I did find myself recently hunting around the entrance to a smaller shopping centre to see if it had anything eligible [it didn’t], so I definitely get it 
Yeah I get that, sometimes when I’m out somewhere I think if something could be a good pokestop and when I don’t find anything I get bummed out lol
