Additional Information (if any): They rejected Waysport’s application because: “The proposal is located on private property that is not accessible to the public.” This last statement is incorrect, however, since it is located on private property but is accessible to the public as it is a farm.
Do you recommend that I appeal?
Ciao, I moved this to Nomination Support since you are rather asking if it is worth appealing.
The problem is not public access - farmland is a type of private property that is also called out in the definition of ineligible locations in the Wayfarer Criteria: Niantic Wayfarer
It does look like the community identified this correctly, and as such I think it would be hard to get past this rejection, especially as your photos show a very residential location. I would not suggest appealing.
They potentially can, as a business that is separate from the housing. If you share your entire nomination we can see further - these details are not apparent from what you shared.
Un elegante gazebo panoramico, liberamente accessibile a chiunque visiti l’Azienda Agricola Pesoli. Da qui si gode una splendida vista sulla valle di Vallericcia, paesaggio unico dei Castelli Romani e parte del percorso storico dell’Appia Antica.
Il gazebo non è solo un punto di sosta sicuro e facilmente raggiungibile, ma anche un luogo di aggregazione che valorizza il territorio e invita a riscoprire la sua storia e le sue bellezze naturali. La sua posizione è ben visibile anche da satellite e lo rende un punto di riferimento significativo per chi percorre questa zona suggestiva. Visibile anche al seguente Link: Google Maps e da satellite.
Description
An elegant panoramic gazebo, freely accessible to anyone visiting the Pesoli Farm. From here, you can enjoy a splendid view of the Vallericcia Valley, a unique landscape of the Castelli Romani and part of the historic Appian Way.
Location
Via Appia Antica, 100, 00072 Ariccia RM, Italy
Additional Information
The gazebo is not only a safe and easily accessible rest stop, but also a gathering place that enhances the area and invites you to rediscover its history and natural beauty. Its location is also clearly visible from satellite, making it a significant landmark for those visiting this picturesque area. Also visible at the following link: Google Maps d41.7093174!4d12.6790385!10e5!16s%2Fg%2F11cp5jnn05!3m5!1s0x13258500699de8d7:0xe94eddada21e1c23!8m2 !3d41.7091859!4d12.6790066!16s%2Fg%2F11xlmq6p15?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDgyNS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D and by satellite.
Because of “farmland” being listed as an explicit rejection (although this is ill-defined because I’ve submitted and had accepted plenty of wayspots that are technically on farmland but are also on public rights of way across that farmland), your phrasing is less than ideal.
You need to state and emphasise that this is a farm that invites visitors and that it is the wine business that is being visited, not the farm itself.
I may not have used the word “tasting,” but I’d really like to understand what reviewers think a gazebo with tables placed right in front of a farm is meant for. The main issue seems to be that it is considered “private and not accessible,” but that’s simply not true. Of course, a farm is private property, but during opening hours its spaces are open to the public, and the gazebo is accessible to anyone who wants to use it. I don’t understand this rigidity in rejecting nominations: my only goal is to make my area more playable and enjoyable for Pokémon GO players. What feels inconsistent is that my proposals get rejected, while murals, random graffiti on walls, or small religious statues attached to private house walls facing the street are instead accepted as Wayspots.
I recommend that if this acts as a business with wine/cheese/food tastings that you highlight that. In other circumstances a gazebo or pavilion on its own is more likely to be acceptable. But in this case you need to overcome the private farm where a family lives. If part of their farm is also some sort of commercial business that is open to the public, then you have a chance that it is eligible. Keep in mind, if it is exclusively for wine tasting you will need to show that it is family friendly. Often times a website included in the supporting information can give the reviewers confidence. But you absolutely will need to beef up the description to mention the business aspect of this location.
Look, this is the Wayfarer forum, so while we all understand and sympathize with wanting more Pokémon GO locations, this argument unfortunately doesn’t have any weight for the eligibility of your nomination.
I would completely agree with the suggestions made above. I would move away from all wording involving farmland, and I would emphasize the fact that this is a business, with external evidence ideally. This is what would make it eligible outside of the restriction on farmland - evidence that there is a separate tasting/store area within the farmland where people visit. For example in the form of a link showing that the Azienda Agricola Pesoli is indeed a business where you can come for a tasting or make a reservation, maybe instead of the Google link (your link leads me to an empty pin, and if you’d like to link reviewers to a Street View frame, this isn’t absolutely necessary as they can see it during the review).
Many of the ineligible things that you have seen in review or on the gameboard and found concerning (private property, vandalism…) can be removed once they are reported. While ineligible wayspots definitely slip through (this is a community review process after all), their existence isn’t exactly guaranteed forever and isn’t a personal comment on your wayspot nominations
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I recommend that if this acts as a business with wine/cheese/food tastings that you highlight that. In other circumstances a gazebo or pavilion on its own is more likely to be acceptable. But in this case you need to overcome the private farm where a family lives. If part of their farm is also some sort of commercial business that is open to the public, then you have a chance that it is eligible. Keep in mind, if it is exclusively for wine tasting you will need to show that it is family friendly. Often times a website included in the supporting information can give the reviewers confidence. But you absolutely will need to beef up the description to mention the business aspect of this location.
[/quote] I will do so in the appeal, as soon as I can.
