I have a question: sometimes I find places that would be ideal for a PokéStop, so I check to nominate them and unfortunately I see they are marked as ‘Wayspot used in other Niantic game.’
My question is: are they used by another game and therefore will never be added to Pokémon GO?
Or can I nominate them and hope they will be added to my game?
Thank you.
Max
It depends. I hate that they added the Powerspots to the nomination map. I submitted this one as a Wayspot, and it was just accepted:
If they have a photo, they likely are approved Wayspots that were not eligible to appear in Pokemon Go. I keep this statement ready for folks looking for their Pokestops to appear, and I think it might help explain here:
I know the prompt tells you that you are submitting a “Pokestop” but you are actually submitting a Wayspot to Niantic’s database. The Wayspot can only become a Pokestop or gym if it is alone in a level 17 S2 cell. This is a good article about S2 cells and PoGo: https://pokemongohub.net/post/article/comprehensive-guide-s2-cells-pokemon-go/
I would still nominate the wayspot. There was a couple in my local area with similar labelling, and I assumed they were imports into the Niantic Database. Worst case scenario is that they will get rejected either by ML or by the Community as being Duplicate. A lot of the Wayspots with this label may be used as Power Spots used in Pokemon Go.
The nomination below was already imported into the system, but didn’t exist in Ingress or Pokemon Go. Without seeing this in the review system, I don’t know for certain if this would or would not get rejected for being a duplicate, as at the time, it didn’t show up as a Power Spot, and nowhere does Power Spots show as part of the review process.
I am worried this Wayspot will get removed because of the import, but hope it doesn’t.
I disagree about submitting a Wayspot you know is a duplicate.
But it happens (a lot). Supporting info has a text like “I submitted before and it was rejected as duplicate. But there is no Pokestop yet”
I know, it’s a lack of knowledge about S2 cells. But the submitter does not know that and there is no way to tell them.
Oh and I didn’t even address what may be the most important issue to @MMaximut . Just because you see them as “Wayspots used in other games” does not mean they are eligible Wayspots. These pictureless powerspots were imported for use as powerspots from a database and often do not meet Wayfarer criteria. I gave an example of one that did.
Agree it happens too often. And I don’t think encouraging someone to submit anyway is helpful. No matter how well intentioned.
So, if I see that the nomination is present (with the correct name) but there’s no PokéStop, I assume it has already been rejected for some reason, and I don’t try to add it.
My question was more to understand whether Niantic keeps separate databases for the various games or just one. I believe the answer is that it’s just one.
So, from what I understand, the database is unified, and if the nomination were eligible, it would already be there in PokemoGo.
Except for the S2 cell issue, which isn’t very clear. If I understood correctly, if there are already too many Gyms or PokéStops in the area, no more would be added, but the nomination would remain (which is what I might see).
However, I don’t think that’s my case because I certainly don’t live in a big city full of PokéStops or Gyms, but quite the opposite.
Sounds like you have the concept. They were working on an app to allow all explorers to see all Wayspots, but it never got out of beta. You will see some people post screenshots who have access. I don’t.
If you would like to give us a location, we can show you what the cells look like there to give you the idea. GPS coordinates are the easiest way to look it up.
(If you see someone refer to Lightship, they are referring to this database. There was some announcement that the name of Lightship was changing that I couldn’t follow, so I am not sure if I should be calling it that now.)
At the time when I submitted the nomination, I didn’t know for sure if they were going to be used for Power Spots or some other reasons.
This goes back to when NBA Basketball was a thing and Niantic imported Basketball Courts into Pokemon Go and NBA Basketball. However, at that time, those Basketball Courts were visible in Pokemon Go, so submitting them would mean that it would surely be rejected.
If Power Spots were visible as part of the review process, I would accept that the example I posted wouldn’t be eligible. But at the time, I lacked sufficient knowledge and experience to know what would be acceptable and what wouldn’t.
Please note that I said
Mistakes happen. I have submitted duplicates of Lightship only Wayspots as well.
Here’s a spot from my town.: 44.638452, 8.643563
Thanks.
This point is the red pin in the screenshot.
This map only shows portals, so it is possible that some imports Ingress isn’t using aren’t there, or that something inside one of those black 20m circles is in Pokemon Go but not in Ingress.
Here is a closeup of an L17 with two portals
In the past, it was possible to force multiple Pokethings into the same L17 with abuse of edits, so you could still see some of those today. And sponsored stops and gyms do not have to follow the cell rules.
Ingress’s inclusion rule is that each portal has to be at least 20m from existing portals. (With a few grandfathered in closer.)
We’re not sure what the inclusion rules are for Peridot, Monster Hunter Now, or Pikmin Bloom. And they don’t even sync annually.
But even if the new Wayspot doesn’t show in any game - it can (will?) be rotated in PokemonGo’s Powerspots.
I wasn’t sure that I had conveyed the idea that those Powerspot imports that are showing as ! with the nomination review map toggle on are not true Wayspots, so I asked on the Wayfarer Discussion Discord, and @NvlblNm wrote up this for me:
There are multiple databases - each game has its own database of things which appear in it in addition to the lightship database that they (might) synchronize new user nominations from. The pogo nomination map uses the pogo database, which includes powerspot imports that are not part of the lightship database and cannot sync to non-pogo games unless accepted to the lightship database.
can. Poserspots seem to have inclusivity rules as well.
I am sure that was a typo, but I love this! They are Wayspots that aren’t really Wayspots.
Greatest typo ever
You mean Greatest Topy ever?
