Whats wrong with this?

A sign declaring this is the border to «naturreservat» this is area that is preserved forest areea… It says «not clear, seasional.» in denial

Is it not clear ? Are the borders seasonbased ? Like summer it is nature winter it isnt ?

I have my personal thoughts I wont utter. What is the problem with sign stating this is a natural narional park area ?

I believe that reviewers were marking this sign as not “Distinct” as in not significant in the environment. More like infrastructure to mark the border like a fence or a rules sign rather than something encouraging exercise, exploration, or being social.

I would accept a Wayspot for the entrance to the area, or trail markers pointing out the way to go to hikers in the woods. But would have to be convinced that this marker meets criteria.

That’s my suburban East Coast US viewpoint. Will let others comment from your area.

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I agree that this was voted down as being “generic” rather than temporary. I honestly think those two should be separate in the review flow, but that’s another conversation entirely.

Also, the supporting photo doesn’t do the nomination any favours. Is there a path that runs along where the sign is, or is the sign just randomly in the middle of the woods? You’ll get far more traction marking this as a nature sign along a path, like a trail marker. Take the supporting photo with this in mind.

There’s no clear indication that there’s a path on Google, so maybe download a photo app that embeds GPS coordinates on the photo that you can use when you take the supporting photo.

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Nature reserves are found all over the country, and most have these signs that look exactly the same. Some reserves have additional information plaques with details of area, purpose and the date it was created.

Are there any trails in that reserve? Is it a place where exploring is encouraged, or is it a reserve meant to be protected and left alone?

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How much science need be involved :joy: its a trailmarker saying from this point on, its national resovoar. Not accepted. Now lets go back accept mailbox and private «playgrounds». I gvive up. Ty all. I tried and didnt make any sence at all for me

You asked for advice, we gave you advice.

If you don’t want to put the work in to improve the nomination to try and get it approved, or answer the questions we have to get more information to help you further then that’s fine.

Wayfarer isn’t easy all of the time, it can be frustrating. But when people reply to your post with honest feedback, and in an earnest attempt to help you and you reply with, essentially, “I don’t like what you’re saying, I give up” … It puts a bad taste in people’s mouths.

I’ll move on to someone who does want the help.

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How stubborn are we supposed to be ? Going to ciry centre its pokestops and gyms every metre. I call foul play

It’s unclear to me whether this sign indicates a trail that is for hiking or just the boundary marker for the reserve. One is tied to an activity that relates to the eligibility criteria. The other seems to be a fancy “keep out” sign. Previous comments are looking for signs :drum: that indicate it is a used trail and how it can be located during review, otherwise the rejection seem correct.

Mailboxes aren’t acceptable by itself btw. As for playgrounds, it (and anything) has to be publicly accessible even to a limited subset of the general public. Criteria Clarification Collection - Niantic Wayfarer Community seem like something you should read.

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Trust me. Its markers.

The database can only reflect the real world. In finding POIs that meet the eligibility criteria, a place with a lot of bustle will be reflected as such.

It’s definitely not a trail marker. I looked at the area and there are lots of way spots in this park that are trail markers.

I have to agree this sign seems like a generic information sign that the whole area is protected, but it’s not actually marking something specific in that area that meets any of the criteria.

There seems to be dozens of way spots in this park. Anything else not already submitted that you could submit?

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This is exactly the problem. Wayfarer isn’t about trust, it’s about you proving something is what you say it is.

“Trust me bro” will get you exactly zero things approved.

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But is a marker that meets the criteria?

Wow, that place has some stunning scenery.

Echoing what some others have said here - this looks like a boundary marker and not a trailmarker. Boundary markers are sometimes eligible, but usually when there’s some intrinsic interest in the wayspot itself (e.g. historical).

Heya. Im going to be honest here. It is a sign with info 200m to the left, that is unfortunatly covered by another cell for a stop 200m away from that again. Im not going game locatios, so I work with whst I have :slight_smile: snd yes, this reservation has loads of trails and interedting places to explore.

I noticed now I get 80% approvsls, 20% rejections out of 20 nominations.

The approvals are signs that point to a direction in wilderness, anything ON that route that is manmade (bridges, campfires etc) are not interesting enough, or the destination itself, unless it had a sign saying «this is the destination». Go figure :joy:

Sorry if it came our harsh :slight_smile:

It might be my understanding of what a nature sign is. If a sign saying this is nature reservoar is not a nature sign, I agree. If a sign saying this is a reservoar is a nature sign, I dissagree :slight_smile:

Heya. I never claimed it to be a trail marker, i claim its a nature sign :slight_smile: if it isnt, I stand corrected. Now… it isnt my fault use S2 cells. This is a pretty unique place with beach leading into nature resorvoar. On the beach it is a statue that is now a gym. Due to nature of S2 cells, that statue blocks 3 other spots within some hundred meteer. a beachvolley and a info sign and a trail marker.

I know S2 cells are not criteria for pokestops when considering, but it is very much so as creator.

In citys every sigle cell probably has 200 nominational spots, so its gyms and spots everywhere.

A bit off its not that easy. Why is a starbucks more interesting than a sign saying this is nature ?

The stops and gyms to right on grid are unaccessable from this location, as it is physicslly blocked by a big mountain, and you have to walk a mile back and another mile to reach them.

This area has one statue, one info sign and one trailmarker. It would habe been 3 spots if S2 cells where of by a meager 10m

I have read it :slight_smile: it boils down to definition what a nature sign is. I have tried google it, but only find stuff about star-signs and horoscopes…

Whst exactly is a nature sign, by definition ?

I feel like you are still caught up with the category of the thing. @shritwod sums up well how I understand the clarifications around this. Replace “boundary markers” with any sign, placemarker, or object.

Sure, you can argue that the sign is {insert category}, it still isn’t apparent whether what your POI is and how does it relate to being a great place for exercise, socialization, and exploration.

  • A nature sign that includes things to read is pretty apparent that it relates well toward exploration. To the point that it can be considered intrinsically eligible. A tag with just the scientific name without further context, less so.
  • Survey markers are boundary markers too, the story it can tell gives a lean toward if it is eligible or not.
  • Artful signs can be a standalone eligible POI as well
  • Signs or focal points are ok placemarkers if it is apparent what outdoor recreation can be done within what it represents

This specific nature sign marking the boundary of a reserve, what can we gleam from that? Maybe it is not apparent whether this is a reserve to leave nature alone and thrive or is it interactive for explorers. Point out what interactions is done there wrt the eligibility criteria.