Cells2 - S14 - S17

It’s Crazy how Creating pokestop Is incredibile hard.
Niantic must wake up and give us the tools to simplify the work. It’s Absolute NOSENSE how player have to track every Meter of where a Pokestop has been created to propose others that must be on a different Cell to appear in pogo. Niantic since u have this instruments, Just give them to the player too, It Will solve a lot of problems, more people Will be willing to create and revisionate more. There also Will be much less work regards moving AN object. Just use Ur damn intellect and do your interest. Why isn’t what I’m saying already a thing?! Will It ever be..?

Hi @BamPkmn
Welcome to the forum :hugs:
While I totally get your point I think it’s also worth to think about the following aspects:
Wayfarer is, in your example, accepting your nominations so for this side you seem to be successful. But than the Pokémon Go side decides how to populate their game and your nominations do sometimes not fit into the rules for pokestops and gyms.
Did you had Powerspots on your mind in the past? None will know what future your game of choice may have.
Wayfarer is game agnostic. At the moment that’s not so relevant (after the split from ingress) because other customers don’t sync regulary but here we also don’t know how the future will be and how Pokémon Go population may cause problems for them. So being only focussed on the outcome of one game is maybe to short thought.
I’m always a fan of transparency but we should think about all aspects imo

Hello @BamPkmn

Submitting and creating pokestops looks simple and straightforward, and it can be.
As your frustration shows it can be much more complicated and this is not clear when you start. In many ways it is like playing the game, where once you dive into it there is a lot you need to pick up from the fellow players.
This is a forum for the wayfarer aspects and what Pokémon Go does is outside our remit.

Now that you have found this forum there is a very active community here of experienced wayfinders and we will be only to happy to help you with finding and submitting, with a view to them being in Pokémon Go.

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Hi, thanks for your good manners and kindness.
Wayfarer and pogo aren’t the same thing?
I’m talking to someone Who works for wayfarer but not for pogo? Do u know if there’s anyway to contact pogo and maybe propose some humanly acceptable features? ‘cause I Just started created wayspot and I’m already tired out, it’s literally absurd and inconvenient. for what It Is RN it’s Better to Just not play if u don’t live in a city where pokestops already exists. And if u only work for wayfarer I’m pretty sure it’s in your interests too for pogo player to have all the right instruments It needs for Creating new wayspots. I only care about playing pogo and probably that’s also most players’ interest so that’s defintely not a short thought, but the only one.
Ofc it’s still important to create as many wayspots as possible for the future ('cause u never know, they might become Power spots too or change the rules of only 1 pokestop per Cell) but if there’s a wayspot in between 4 cells, where 3 are already occupied and this One Is in One of those 3 cells, I want to move It to the free One since it’s a big wayspot also occupied by It :sweat_smile:. This way we’re all Happy: pogo players keeps Creating for wayfarer + they get the pokestop in game in return..

  • Do u know what’s ingress and what’s the difference with wayfarer? Weren’t they like the same thing?

We are not staff but fellow wayfinders.

If you would like to give us details of some nominations we are more than happy to help. Hopefully to get some positive outcomes for as it can be tricky.
Don’t give any details tgat would reveal your home but do give us enough to look at the area and the sort of thing you are nominating.

But there’s “Ambassador” on your name.. what does that mean

  • In Here there are only NON working people so there’s no way to directly contact either pogo nor wayfarer?
    Thanks u all guys for such fast answers btw :heart:

I want to welcome you to the forum, and am glad you are here. But this kind of attitude about moving things a few meters so they will appear in game is probably why Niantic does NOT provide tools to show the S2 cells. Wayspots must be correctly placed at the actual real life position of the point of interest. It can be useful to know about cells to know where to look for things which are legitimately there to submit.

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Ingress is a separate game. It was around before Pogo and when pogo was developed they used the same database of real life points as Ingress.
When Scopely bought out parts of Niantic, ingress stayed with the original part of Niantic whereas pogo and wayfarer went to Scopely.
Wayfarer is a separate entity as the database of points can be used in any game so for now pogo,MHN and Pikmin.
Some of us are wayfarer Ambassadors - volunteers. There are members of the wayfarerteam who will sometimes add to discussion.

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When I propose wayspot the only way Ik I can do that, Is from inside pogo, Is there any other way? Maybe by also seeing cells, where wayspots already are and which cells might be already occupied? I personally don’t want to lose a ton of time by proposing a waystop which night or night not pass to just not appear in game if It passes.
Do u also know why pogo uses cells? I mean, u’re a bad person for force their use

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Niantic never talks about cells. This is because they have concerned about malicious use.
All the information about cells comes from prayer observation and research.

The best article describing cells
https://pokemongohub.net/post/article/comprehensive-guide-s2-cells-pokemon-go/

You can use the newly launched web submission.
If you want to investigate player developed tools then the Wayfarer Dicussion Discord - a player organised discord- is where to go.

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How do I get the precise coordinates on which a way spot Is placed?
How can I give precise coordinate while proposing a wayspot so I’m sure that if It goes through the wayspot Will actually appeared in pogo rather than “touching” with my hands where the wayspot Is by lloking at the map?

Honestly, I know it sucks to hear it, but just submit stuff where it exists and see what happens. With bigger stuff like football fields or such like, sure, check the cells, but with most stuff there is no leeway to pin it anywhere else, and messing with wayfarer sadly is the best way to get banned from PoGo. Not trying to be mean at all - I get how frustrating it is - but just submit things accurately and you’ll generally either get a stop or a power spot anyway, its all good, and your account is safe :smiling_face_with_three_hearts:

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You can see the conordinates in the submission confirmation email.
When you submit in the web form it tells you the exact pin location you have placed it at prior to submission.

I also find that as you can do this on a bigger screen and zoom in then place the pin it is much easier to do than on the game based interface.
I feel more confident about what I am doing.

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Power spot ain’t sure to come. + I want to check whether the correct Place to submit a wayspot Will give me a pokestop or not. 'cause if not, I’d rather not make the submission at all and save myself those minutes. I appreciate what u’re saying and the worry, thanks!
Said so, my question Is still the same.. Is there anyway to check the coordinates of a wayspot and the coordinates of the Place I want to submit?

As I said if you want to look at player based tools that aid submission then the Wayfarer Discussion Discord is where to go.

Will actually appeared in pogo rather than “touching” with my hands where the wayspot Is by lloking at the map?

This statement causes me a bit of concern as it sounds like you may be looking to intentionally manipulate the game board. A way spot should be placed accurately. Niantic has stated that intentionally misplacing a location to manipulate game play is abuse. Some larger objects will allow more leeway with your placement but smaller objects may not. I would highly recommend against misplacing a location for your own benefit of getting a way spot to show up in the game.

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When objects have a very specific location, such as fitness equipment, picnic shelters, then you don’t have much choice where to put the pin, so the cells (re proximity rules for Pogo) don’t really matter. If it doesn’t become a pokestop, it may become a powerstop. Don’t put the pin in the wrong location just to make the wayspot appear in Pokemon Go - this is abuse, and risks a warning and a strike.

When objects have a choice of location, such as a playground set, then knowing the cells can make a difference if you want a pokestop rather than a powerstop (or the other way round!), as you can choose where to put the pin when nominating and there is a legitimate choice of positions.

What you can’t do is try to move things after they are accepted in order to make them appear as a pokestop, if they are already in a good location and you are just moving them to a just-as-good location. People do that when they know about the cells and the proximity rules, and are trying to tweak the gameboard.

Do u have a link by any chance?

The link cannot be posted. You will need to search for it using your preferred web search engine. @elijustrying has provided the search term :slight_smile:

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