Why do I have accepted pokestops and they don’t appear in the game?
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In addition to the previous reply, you may want to read this article: https://pokemongohub.net/post/article/comprehensive-guide-s2-cells-pokemon-go/
Thank you very much, but if I make a contribution from Pokémon Go it is so that it appears in that game. Seeing this, I’m not going to waste any more time and I’m not going to contribute anymore.
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Hey Explorer! I would hate to see you get discouraged, you have to remember this. You are submitting a nomination for the Niantic Lightship Map, not Pokemon Go or any other specific game. Each game has their own inclusion rules.
Don’t stop nominating, but I’d recommend you look at this, if you are concerned about specific inclusion for Pokemon Go.
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Pokémon Go lies to you during the submission process. The Pokémon Go devs use Pokémon Go specific terminology (like Pokéstops), when in actual fact you’re nominating wayspots for Niantic’s Lightship database. The wayfarer team are in favour of having the in game text updated to use wayfarer terminology, but the game devs for Pokémon Go (and Ingress) choose to use game specific terminology for immersion purposes, which unfortunately leads new submitters to not have a good understanding of what’s actually going on with the system. All you really get to go on is this small bit of information in your acceptance emails:
Basically you submit a wayspot which, if accepted, will get added to the Lightship database. From here, it will attempt to sync into Niantic’s various games, but each of those games has a proximity rule that determines whether the new wayspot can be added to that game or not. So clearly, you’ve been submitting wayspots that don’t meet the proximity requirements for Pokémon Go, which I get can be disheartening at first.
I wouldn’t give up though. Now that you know about the proximity rule that Pokémon Go uses, if you really only want your stuff to appear in Pokémon Go, you can use this knowledge to help you check whether something will or won’t appear. I word it like that because a lot of us will still submit nominations anyway, even if they won’t appear in the game we play. Your nomination could still help someone who plays a different game. For example, a lot of your local Pokéstops will likely have come from Ingress agents submitting wayspots through their game, so the least you can do is occasionally pay the favour back by submitting things that won’t necessarily become Pokéstops, but that could still become Portals (or whatever they might become in other Niantic games).
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@CaTKaMeT
Remember you are dealing with Niantic and communication with players is not something they are known for……
There is lots of advice here, because we are keen to help with the frustration that arises when you are unaware of the inclusion rules for selecting wayspots to become pokestops. Once you have that sorted then submitting and getting pokestops becomes more satisfying.
Do read the articles and ask more questions.
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If you give up, then you have to rely on others to get any new pokestops or gyms. If you don’t understand, ask! I prefer chatting on discord and find the Wayfarer Discussion Discord folks very knowledgeable and eager to help. You can get an invite to the group here: https://wayfarer.tools/
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Please, make an effort to find wording that both Niantic and Pokémon can agree to and please stop putting your customer in the middle of your verbiage dispute. You’re wasting our valuable time and allowing a falsehood to persist every day this misdirect is left unamended. Besides, it’s simply disrespectful to your customers/trainers and fellow human beings. Be nicer please
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When submitting threw Ingress it can appear in both Pokemon Go and Ingress.
Similarly when submitting through Pokémon GO, if the Wayspot meets inclusion rules for both Ingress and Pokémon GO, it can appear on both.
You can also see many examples in this forum where a nomination (either through Ingress or Pokémon GO) appears in neither game as it doesn’t meet the inclusion rules for those.
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I agree, I gladly use the time to nominate a Pokemon stop. But when I submit it in Pokemon go, I would expect an answer from Pokemon go. Now I have wasted even more time to find out about S2 cell 17 structure which I don’t spend time one when filing nomination. I will also stop wasting my time on contributions.
Welcome to the forum @Hjarupsrauken
I can understand that it can be frustrating if a nomination doesn’t appear in the game you play, but before you abandon wayfarer completely, I want to make two points:
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most of the wayspots you interact with in Pokémon Go were likely not submitted by Pokémon Go players like yourself. A lot of them come from the hard work of Ingress Agents who basically laid the foundations. When you submit a wayspot and it doesn’t appear in Pokémon Go, you might still be helping people enjoy other games, exactly how those Ingress Agents before you are helping you enjoy Pokémon Go right now. You don’t have to pay the favour forwards by any means of course, but I personally don’t see the harm in it. Personally, if my wayspots help someone in a different game, I’m happy with that.
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now that you’re aware of the proximity rules Pokémon Go uses, if you really aren’t the kind of person who wants to help people playing other games, you can use tools like IITC to see in advance whether what you want to submit is in an occupied Level 17 S2 Cell or not, and base your decision of whether to submit it on that. That way you can at least be fairly sure that anything you nominate will become a Pokéstop or Gym.
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Thank you @hankwolfman , I don’t mind that my contribution are used in other games, I am glad if it can be used. However, what I lack is the feedback so I don’t have to spend considerable amount of time to investigate why a contribution wasn’t showing up in the game as I expected.
After spending that time I do now understand more. But still it would be so much simpier that Pokemon Go respond on their decision, now I have to guess. I don’t think it’s about cell 17 issue, there is a lot of stops that is in much closer distance than this one. I did analyse my picture again an there is a person far behind which I didn’t see before, I guess this might be the reason. However, since wayfinder did accept my nomination I don’t know how to update the picture and get it re-reviewd.
Of course in given circomstances this is just guesses.
Distance doesn’t matter for Pokémon GO. You could have one that’s 1m away from another but so long as they are in different cells, they will both be PokéStops.
That may be why you’ve seen some are close.
Hello,
It could be that if you are seeing a number of examples of multiple wayspots in 1 level 17 cell then this may have been done previously maliciously to manipulate the gameboard.
Things have changed to prevent this happening now, and action may be taken at some point to recalculate those overfilled cells to bring them in line with what is expected.
You have done the hard part in learning about what might happen if you nominate with the goal of getting a new location in a particular game. If you nominate now your community will benefit.
True, thanks @elijustrying!
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