It is not a pokestop in PoGo, so I won’t submit it.
That is not a statement that I would expect from a Wayfarer ambassador.
Wayfarer doesn’t own Pokémon GO
You refer to this as a statement and present it in a way that makes it appear as though this is what was stated.
This is not true, as that was not said.
Please refrain from giving your misinterpretation as facts.
No wayfinder including an ambassador is obliged to justify what they choose to submit.
Though, that will stick with the Spatial fork.
If IITC didn’t already have such a large collection of tools, I wouldn’t have been surprised if something similar had not turned up for Lightship. (Who knows, maybe there is? I don’t use it that often.)
If it was staying with Scopely, it would have been a good base to start from.
I think you’re operating on outdated information. Please read the recent announcements to understand the future of Wayfarer.
Scopely bought Pokemon GO, Pikmin Bloom, Monster Hunter Now, Campfire and Wayfarer.
Ingress and Peridot are separating to a different company that will be called Niantic Spatial.
The maps between the 2 companies are separating soon (date TBD).
With Pikmin and MHN not getting daily syncs, the future state that will soon go into place is that Wayfarer will primarily exist to populate the Pokemon GO map with interaction points.
It is silly to bury your head in the sand and pretend that this is not happening. It is happening. No one here can change it. All we can do is accept the change and think about how we incorporate that into our Wayfarer experience.
Even if an area doesn’t have a lot of wayspots already in the games, you still want the maps to make the most out of your nominations in the area to build as robust of a play area as possible with the eligible things available there. Could be the difference between having 2 gyms and 10 pokestops as opposed to 4 gyms and 8 pokestops in an area, for instance.
I too believe that a map is necessary to provide a guideline for the location of submissions.
I may submit for the enjoyment of Wayfarer itself or for the improvement of the game board. If I want a review result as soon as possible, I will apply an upgrade, but rarely use an upgrade for a candidate that does not appear on the game.
For example, a tennis court or baseball field has multiple crossings and intersections of lines that demarcate a large area, but are specified to designate entrances and sides. Lines demarcating a map may intersect on a square monument stone measuring 1.5 meters on a side. Sometimes the lines cross over a mural or bulletin board. The submitter may arbitrarily specify the position as long as it is within the limits allowed by the criteria.
Unfortunately, some Wayspots cannot be displayed in the game. However, since the purpose of Wayfarer’s mapping is to lead players on an adventure through the game, it is necessary to be able to explore the locations that are displayed. (However, if an existing Wayspot already exists in the correct location, you should not edit the location to make it appear.)
And there have been many voices in the forum that have been discouraged when someone submits a candidate for the first time and gets approval and it doesn’t show up on the game. meppfyiorterst times,tt doe noshow up on he ga There needs to be a map that should serve as a guideline.
And that’s precisely the problem. I suspect at least 95-99% of people who submit do so because they want more pokestops / gyms / other game POI’s. Not because they want to add to a nebulous database that none of us have direct access to, and which can have locations existing that are virtually impossible to interact with and are thus useless.
The whole point of wayfarer is to contribute to the game map(s), so that niantic/scopely’s games can better encourage people to get outside, move around, and meet others. Submitting locations entirely blind to the so called “inclusion rules” like the wayfarer admins generally seem to want us to do is literally counter productive to the entire reason wayfarer exists in the first place.
So we can either submit blind and create a game map that does not help foster community & encourage exploration, or we can pay more attention to how the system works and min-max it without breaking rules in order to allow everyone to benefit. And to do that, we need a waypoint map similar to what IITC has been able to offer up to this point.
Please read the room.
Maybe Scopely will let Pikmin Bloomers nominate too!
Do you think we’d need our own lines on the map?
I haven’t played Pikmin Bloom in a while. Has anyone made a determination as to what methodology the Pikmin Team use for inclusion?
As I heard it, the games use different sized cells. I think PoGo is S12 and PB is S14? I can’t even guess about MHN. …OK, I’ll guess: 13.
Niantic hasn’t verified methodology for any game, of course. But gamers are pretty smart, and good at observing.
If I worked there, I’d make one game sync randomly selected wayspots. Just to mess with everyone.
Maybe have some randomly disappear and new ones near by come into play.
it’s something like 1 flower per L16 and the first wayspot in an L14 will be the mushroom.
when they rebalanced, they seemed to pick the most centrally located wayspot in each L14 for mushrooms, though there are some weird exceptions
I think the best option would be to include a wayspot map inside Wayfarer. This currently existed during the beta process of the Wayfarer app… so it should be simple to include it.
Where does “inside Wayfarer” exist to you?
I mean that it would be a really good addition to the Wayfarer webpage. A place to view all existing wayspots. I used to have access to the Wayfarer App beta version and there was a map to view all wayspots, it was really useful.
Sigh!
This seems a rather strange question to ask on the official Wayfarer forum.
Are you trying to quibble over Niantic vs. Scopely? Wayfarer is the umbrella concept and mapping database to which we contribute, here.
Inside means internal, not depending upon a separate company or organization. As an ambassador, you already know this. So why the snark?
It is not snark at all. I literally had no idea what they meant when they said “include a wayspot map inside Wayfarer.” Did they mean the Wayfarer website which has never had a map? Where would it go? Did they mean while nominating from one of the games? I literally asked for an explanation of what that phrase meant to them so I could have more context. Unlike you, I don’t assume I know what others mean or already know.
Hello Explorers,
Thank you for all the thoughtful feedback and continued enthusiasm around the idea of a comprehensive Map of all Wayspots. We have heard your feedback and our Ambassadors’ feedback about this need loud and clear.
We have shared your inputs with the appropriate teams for their consideration. Rest assured that your feedback is helping shape our internal conversations and priorities. While we do not have any specific details to share at this time, your suggestions do influence the directions we take.
Please keep the feedback coming, and thank you for being such a passionate, engaged, and integral part of the community.
Regards,
Wayfarer Team!
Thank you for this acknowledgement.
Does that mean we can expect a map with dancing Pikachus on it? Does it?