can someone please help me out. My nomination was rejected and identified as “duplicate” wayspot. With my limited acces to check wayspot and location i was sceptical since i found nothing. Appeal for the very same gave me the feedback from niantic that there is a “live wayspot” (which iam not able to identify). I am still of the opinion that something is wrong here and the Wayspot is in the wrong place…
Please, anyone able to help and give me the location of the existing (equal) wayspot (since mine is a duplicate there “MUST” be something)
Thank you very much
@hankwolfman
Reference to share: stumbling block / Schott / Westendstraße (street).
Reference Picture (which was used for the nomination)
Further Maps Link for verification:
Google Maps Link
Approx. location: 49.97531271930008, 8.567076611814915
If it is not showing in Pokemon Go, it is possible that the property owner requested to have the PoGo game location removed, but did not request the portal or Wayspot to go also. Or there may be an import or a sponsored location in that L17 S2 cell that does not show in Ingress as a portal.
Hello,
I do see this as a Wayspot under the title Stolpersteine Familien Schott und Neu:
It’s the only Wayspot in that L17 S2 cell, so it shoujld be in PoGo, but it does appear to be within 20 m of the Wayspot Walk and Jazz Art, which may not allow it to be in Ingress.
Your photo has been added to the Wayspot.
wow, there is always something new to learn …
if you look into PoGo nomination app, there is nothing to find regarding this stumbling block. Thats the only one and last missing which is NO POI (Pokestop) in PoGo, others are all available and visible. There is even a webpage of the city where you can find all blocks listed.
Beside the historical point of view and public interest, i can not image that anyone requested a removal (for what reason). There are also other POI nextby… hmm
thanks for your help and clarification so far 
any admin able to check please? much appreciated…
(@NianticAaron maybe?)
Actually, you an see duplicates in PoGo. There is a toggle in the bottom left of the map when nominating that allows you to see what is and isn’t currently a Wayspot and/or Power Spot.
Also, it’s possible that it could be geoblocked, meaning the property owner/manager asked that it not be included. It could also be a dead L17 cell. Only staff would be able to confirm if this Wayspot is allowed to be in PoGo or not at this point.
If you turn on the toggle in the nomination map screen, you should be able to see any wayspots which are not showing in Pokemon Go as exclamation marks like these:
It only works over a short distance, so you have to be right there.
[I can’t explain why it isn’t showing in Pokemon Go, so I hope that someone can.]
Thats what i am refering to and was used by myself, checked this locations. Did not make a screensshot unfortunately. The blocks were not displayed as “PokeStop” or Niantic “!”. Thats known to me and my only source to check…
Thanks
Then right now, the best thing is to wait for staff to look into this. Again, could be a geoblock, could just be a dead L17 cell. Not much more any of us can do at this point.
How close were you when you checked? I am just curious what the range of this is, because I know that has happened to me, too. Now I check when I am standing basically on top of the poi.
as you mentioned, checked on “spot” and area around as far es visible, its quite limited, only a few hundred meters…
yes lets wait, thank you a lot
We have removed this location from Pokémon GO based on a request in the past. Thanks,
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This is a map of Ingress portals.
What they said is: the portal is in the 20 meters range of another portal, which is against the current 20 meters distance rule, which prevents the Wayspot from appearing as a portal in Ingress.
They are either old portals, which appeared when then 20m rule was not (yet) in effect or one of the portals was moved in the past.
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Dear @NianticAaron,
would you please mind to share some further details? Is there maybe any chance to get it back in the game? I can not remember to have this Wayspot “spotted” / found visible ever in PoGo, and we are talking about 5 years now.
Maybe the circumstances on this matter changed over time …
Checked this area today for any private property, but found non/nothing. At least i can say there is no living house directly to this location, its about commercial business on this site only (directly nexby Citybar and a Kiosk).
In my opinion this is quite of common interest and this stumbling block is the last one missing, all other are mention by the city administration on the website with historical background and are accessible in the game (at least for PoGo).
Please appreciate that I would like to see a further escalation in this matter, thank you very much
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The Single Family Private Residential Property from the Wayfarer Criteria was not the reason this was disabled by the Niantic Team, Aaron said this was disabled due to a request which will likely be coming from the property owner. The difference here is that any property owner can, regardless of any criteria, tell Niantic to disable any Wayspots on their property (with a confirmation process of being the actual owner as well).
While the buildings there would not be Private Residential Property in a Wayfarer sense, it would be enough if for example the Kiosk owner, who also owns the property, asked for this measure.
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No, Dtrain called these “Wayspots” and said this one may not be allowed to be in Ingress. This is a map of portals. Many people have this confusion, and it is worth clearing up. I did not see any reason to speculate why this portal is breaking the normal Ingress rules.
Well, the Kiosk “owner” is commercial/trade. Most likely with a lease contract to use the facility/building room. The building “owner” would be another topic but thats maybe not even the case or lets say important…
BECAUSE, we are talking about “something” on a pedestrian path / walkway. That belongs NOT to the building. My search for legal bases and the “object” gets me more and more to struggle with this situation. In my opinion the walkway is under the administration of the city. The stumble blocks are not only mentioned by the city webpage there are also placed under the responsibility of the city. Why should be something of common intresst be placed on private property? This would mean that the city council and the owner of the property would have to have an agreement, also to avoid legal claims. The city council could also not force anyone to install these objects on the private property. I don’t think they would ever do that…
My conclusion, stumble blocks are placed in public interest in <public/common area>
However, without further details, everything here is just speculation…
I’m still getting used to using the map. I’m trying to use the Intel map over the Spatial/Lightship map fir screenshots, but I do double check that map as well.
And yes, I was referring to the 20 m rule.
I think this is quite a small thing, and not relevant to the current discussion the OP is having.
