Sediul Muzeului de Etnografie și Artă Populară (fostul sediu al Băncii Naționale a României – Agenția Tulcea) este unul dintre edificiile publice emblematice pentru Tulcea, constituind, împreună cu alte construcții, exemple valoroase ale arhitecturii de forme naționale.
This museum IS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT from the one nearby, as this focuses more on traditional-cultural matters while the other one focuses entirely on art. Both buildings are also historical monuments with entirely different histories. This area is historic and packed with older buildings. Construcția are la bază un proiect elaborat în 1924 și a fost ridicată în perioada interbelica (1924-1927), deci, la finele epocii de manifestare a curentului național în arhitectura României. Imobilul are o compoziție echilibrat generată și de poziționarea într-o intersecție, dar și de funcționalitatea inițială. Acest edificiu public poate fi considerat un exemplar reușit al arhitecturii moderne, edificate pe valorile celei tradiționale, ce a marcat prima parte a secolului al XX-lea. Patrimoniul Muzeului de Etnografie și Artă Populară reflectă, prin diversitatea colecțiilor, un model cultural unic generat de conviețuirea etnică dintre români și celelalte populații. Cele aproximativ 8000 de piese alcătuiesc un fond etnografic inestimabil decodificabil în cadrul colecțiilor de artă populară și port popular, etnografie și foto-document. Muzeul de Etnografie și Artă Populară | ICEM TulceaClădiri. Străzi. Hărți | Biblioteca Județeană ”Panait Cerna” Tulcea
There are actually 3 museum in this area. 1 is a gym and the other one is a power spot.
I also had a failed nomination where I removed every mention of museum and relied purely on its historical background and it being a historical monument.
The museum is already a wayspot which is called “Museum of Folk Art”.
If you go to this location in person (it’s important that you’re physically there, as it doesn’t work remotely), you’ll be able to see the nearby wayspots when you first begin making a new submission (assuming you have it toggled on). It’ll look like this:
Anything that’s blue is already a Pokéstop or gym, whilst the orange markers are either wayspots that aren’t eligible to appear in Pokémon Go (usually due to the proximity rules), or third party power spot imports (these typically don’t have a picture). You can tap on an icon to view what it represents. If you go to the museum, you should see it represented as an orange icon.
For details on the proximity rules used in Pokémon Go, you can check out this article:
I haven’t checked the situation myself, but it’ll likely be the case that the level 17 S2 cell that contains this museum also contains another Pokéstop or gym, and as the rule is one Pokéstop or gym per level 17 s2 cell, whatever appears in game in that cell will be blocking the museum from being a Pokéstop or gym. It might be eligible to be a power spot though, depending on its distance from other Pokéstops or gyms.
Edit: I have now checked. The museum wayspot is in the same cell as both “Brutarita” and “Bust Spiru Haret”. Whichever one of those you can see in Pokémon Go is the reason that the museum that you were trying to submit isn’t able to be a Pokéstop or gym. As the museum is in the database but not eligible to appear in Pokémon Go, that’s why it was correctly marked as a duplicate. I’m sure someone else can help provide a visual of this.
Thank you so much for the info. It all makes sense now. Yes I do by submitting remotely. Wish all that was transparent in the Denial Mails I got every time, It would have saved me a lot of time.
How did you manage to see the stops remotely?
This why placement is important. Especially for big nomination where there can be several possible marker. If you submit it slightly east, it can appear as pokestop. But please understand that since ingress have split with pogo, the map can be inaccurate since pogo dont have its own map.
Lastly please understand that missplacement of wayspot away from its actual location is subject to abuse ladder system.
This nomination is one of special case where it can be submitted in multiple cell
When submitting in Pokemon Go remotely, you cannot see the surrounding POI (existing stops and other things that aren’t pokestops).
The best way we currently have is using the Ingress map, which allows the cell boundaries to be seen and explaining what is blocking a POI from being a pokestop, but this is going to be increasingly inaccurate for Pokemon Go.
The denial of “duplicate” in the email is correct. The problem is you can’t see the duplicate! You’d have to go to that location person, open the submission screen, ensure the toggle is on, and then you’d see it.
I was hesitant to suggest location edits. When I checked on street view, the current pin seems to be on the entrance gate to the grounds of the museum, which would be considered the natural point of discovery for it.
Quick update: I went in to see what’s going on and can confirm that there’s not only one but two spots corresponding to this building. One of them being to the right of the grid line as it was needed yet it stil didnt appear ingame.
Anyway the problem here is that we need to see what spots are there even if we are remote.
Sometimes factors like limited mobile data, heat, sun and lots of text pasting and browsing makes local submissions not ideal especially with all these AI shenanigans happening where you need to factor in all sort of quirks in the texts you are submitting.
Currently, the only way to see what spots are there is to be physically at the location and start a submission to get that map view up. Intel/IITC is getting increasingly out of data (for Pokemon Go) so cannot be relied on.
The best option may be to do a local submission with placeholder text - just take care when uploading that you do it reasonably quickly after creating the submission and then put the submission on hold as soon as it uploads.
