In our city there is a large campus for an insurance company. On that campus is 3 gyms, and a gate blocking public access to the area. This feels like these gyms are clearly not placed in accordance with the guidelines, and only benefit employees of that company.
Unfortunately, we can’t easily report the gyms through GO, because we cannot get close enough to them. I know that there is an alternate form from Niantic, but I am not a business owner, or affiliated with this insurance company. I’m merely a player of GO trying to help rebuild an active local player community, and we’re not very pleased when these gyms get chosen to hatch raids that no one can access without risking trespassing.
Are there any other methods that myself or my fellow local players can use to report these gyms for review?
The gyms inside the business complex aren’t preventing raids from spawning elsewhere. Any gym can have raids, it isn’t a matter where only a limited number can appear in a region.
Are there Pokémon inside the gym? I’m sure the workers who do have access really appreciate being able to play during their breaks.
Yes the gyms have Pokemon in them,and I understand that any gym can host a raid, but it feels very much like this would fall under an “Abusive location” since the gyms were created with the intention of only those employees being able to access them.
I understand that sentiment. When “abusive locations” were first mentioned, Niantic staff did have to clarify that they meant misplaced or misrepresented locations, not corporate private property. A long ago guidance was actually “… Think about this as a opportunity to make a friend.” Sure, I’m not going to knock on the door and ask for a tour. I have actually been able to join Facebook and Discord groups for trainers at such locations, though, who are willing to invite the community at large for raids!
Maybe there’s an opportunity for you to reach out to a group that way?
This is good clarification, thank you. It would be nice to see that information listed with the explanation of the Rejection reason on Wayfinder. But, oh well…
I’m sure there likely are employees of that company who may be able to allow us access to the campus, on one of the many Discord groups (it’s own issue in my opinion) out there. Hopefully, it’s not something that would put their job on the line to do, given the company’s likely concern of patient data stored on-site.
In Ingress, one faction can make fields (triangles) with anchors hundreds of miles away, behind other gates. This would affect all gameplay under the field (inside the triangle). It’s a pain, but Niantic has said it’s OK, every time we asked, since 2014.
On the bright side, if there’s another portal with a kilometer - I could take my (virtual) drone behind the gate, and get +3 on my “Unique Portals Drone Visited” profile stat. It’s not strategic, but is a way to explore, that some people enjoy.
Why do you think you should remove these? Should we also remove all wayspots from Disneyland, because only paying customers can access them? These wayspots make people happy. Going out of your way to remove them without cause is not very nice. It’s okay if someone else gets a gym and you don’t. Go play at a different gym.
That’s… Not the same thing. Being unable to access a wayspot because you haven’t paid to access the grounds is way different than “being unable for physically anyone to access the location unless YOU SPECIFICALLY live, work and breathe at this location”
This isn’t all terrible in pokemon go, but it’s real bad for Ingress.
Machina is a hyuge problem because of this because nobody who set up these portals even play anymore. It should be a game of exploring for everyone, not a game of memberships working together to get the most wonked out field setup that the enemy team can’t do jack about.
Perhaps if these restricted areas aren’t ever going to be solved perhaps we can mark spots as restricted areas so we don’t go waltzing towards private property due to not knowing?
But if Niantic wants to stick to this for the end of time, it might just be a game killer for me.
Not all waypoints have to be available to all players
We have mountain top waypoints too, those are inaccessible for anyone who is restricted in their physical ability to climb it. Doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be a spot for people who can get there!
I don’t think this is an issue. Its always been this way, and Ingress has been out longer than Go! So I would think people would have worked out how to play around these issues by now
But how is it different? Its a location some people can go and others can’t.
Arguably if it were a really important factor to get to the business waypoints, one could try to get a job at that location in order to gain legitimate access. Obviously thats quite extreme but it is possible
It’s different because having to be a member of multiple types of communities in an area to be able to access one specific portal is ridiculous. I have to be the member of a baseball team in order to get one shot at the scoreboard on the field. Or I have to be a current resident of an apartment complex to be able to access the fountain. Or I have to be part of the army in order to maybe get access to one wayspot of a military base.
While that is most certainly true, agents can “link” portals of these types together to make it very hard to burst. If it’s not in the range, you deal very little if any damage to the portal. Combine that with portal shields (damage mitigation), turrets, and damage amps and the enemy team has a tough time either hitting the portal or even getting close enough for that in the first place.
Ingress is a completely different game than Go. You’re fighting over building triangular mindfields between wayspots to get the most points. Machina spawns where it wants and links where it wants. Imagine the enemy team gets about a 50k advantage in a game of 900k over yours because you can’t destroy their wayspots at all. That’s ingress.
Pokemon go is, there’s a gym here, it’s got badges for that specific gym. You get badges of that gym for holding that specific gym. It’s not a big deal if you can’t access that gym. Just go to another gym.
I had imagined it would be a bit like Go whereby some people are incredibly driven to the point of seeming obsession to “own” certain spots, and others either drive themselves crazy and turn toxic about trying to fight them for it, or they decide to look elsewhere for gameplay that is more realistic.
I’ve always found the latter option to be far more pleasent.
Cant you just make a triangle out of 3 different points? Or can there only be 1 triangle in an area? I thought they could overlap?
I guess what I’m not understanding is why is it so important to the point of wanting stuff you cant get to deleted? Does it really mean you cant play at all if someone else lives at an apartment block with a waypoint you cant access? Or does it simply mean they get points and items more easily than you do? Because that happens in Go as well and sure, its unfair, but Niantic didnt design a fair game for any of us so we just have to get over that eventually or quit from the constant negativity.
It means as simple as if I link from one portal to the next, it becomes basically a giant wall to worst, I get free mindpoints as long as I keep them up
Is it negativity? No. I love this game. There is none like it. But wanting things to positively change for everyone is not necessarily negativity.
My team personally has attempted to do this. The enemy team has frothed at the mouth at not being able to access the portal because it was too far in private property. They even got it changed so it was close enough to the entrance to hit it. It only leads to ill omen between the teams, and it wasn’t even me who came up with the thought in the first place
