Invalid wayspot - San Jose Fire Station No. 27

  • Wayspot Title: San Jose Fire Station No. 27
  • Location (lat/lon): 37.232714,-121.771996
  • City: San Jose, CA
  • Country: US
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I was under the impression that, in general, fire stations were frowned upon. But when looking just now, I see the “Rejection Criteria” says:

may interfere with the operations of fire stations

So, maybe, maybe not.

Thanks for the appeal, @nexushoratio. We took another look at the Wayspot in question and decided that it does not meet our criteria for removal at this time.

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Just to verify, if you can:

Fire stations are all right as long as the wayspot does not block a driveway?

I don’t think they can give a good answer, let me try it:

A (normal, purely opertaional) fire station in itself doesn’t meet any criteria for acceptance:

It does not encourage exploration
It has nothing to do with excercise
It’s not a place you’d socialise at / in

The main reason why a fire station would meet removal criteria is for obstructing emergency services. The wayspot location is away from the driveway.

So basically, it’s ye olde loophole that allows wayspots that might not have reached enough on the acceptance side to even get into the database but still were accepted, but they also do not meet any removal criteria so they won’t get removed, is at play here.
This also applies to random generic businesses like super markets and so on, I saw that you tried to report such a wayspot too.

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This Fire Station has also been around quite a while. Probably pre-PoGo, if not pre-GA. They may have done an import of all Fire Stations at one point; I’m not sure on that bit.

But figure it is worth a try.

And the contradictions keep piling up.

This hall BESIDE a fire station that the fire fighters encourage the public to use was removed as obstructing emergency services, and merited a scolding for the submitter: Received a warning this morning

But this fire station itself does not meet removal criteria :woman_facepalming:

@NianticLC can you please explain why this did not meet removal criteria?

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Yep, it’s these blatant inconsistencies that cause so much mistrust and confusion. Ridiculous that the team still don’t see this as a major issue that needs addressing.

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I’m going to be honest I don’t understand the decision here:

Given just a 40-meter interaction radius, there are 2 very distinct areas where people can stand to interact with the Wayspot that could potentially interfere with the fire trucks exiting the station.

This seems like a slam dunk removal to me. I’d love to know the rational behind it not meeting removal requirements, so that as a community can better understand what we should be attempting to get removed and what we are good to leave alone.

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Having 100% access around the radius is not a requirement. This has pedestrian access right up to the sign that does not interfere with the operations. It doesn’t meet obstructing services or removal criteria. It is legacy doesn’t meet current criteria.

Yes you can access it from an area that’s not obstructing the fire trucks, but you can also stand right in front of the door where the fire trucks exit the station.

It’s not black and white, it’s the potential to obstruct emergency services. If this was nominated now it would never get approved, because it has the potential to block emergency services. It being a “legacy” Wayspot shouldn’t matter. Just because it’s old doesn’t mean it’s immune from the guidelines.

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there’s no such thing as legacy

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