It looks like this for me ā¦ if you give the name of the mosque and the location Multan Punjab in google maps ā¦ you get the location of a mosque
Than give for example locations on you screenshot, like this diary farm or the stores shown in the pic
It looks for me like its a mismatched location
@YuJun4764 I was looking at this nomination and I donāt think it looks off. Now to be honest, Iām seeing a screenshot and not what the reviewers saw. That being said, I think some people can be very picky when reviewing. You asked for some tips on how to make it better:
Good luck my friend and be well.
Iāve been reviewing from the previous year and have reviewed more than 300 nominations from Pakistan. Iām very sorry to say that there were nominations much worse than I submitted and I was surprised to see, I donāt think I can/should give screenshots of the nominations I review or can I? Thatās why I reached this conclusion that language can also be a barrier. Moreover This building/mosque is very large, This has three floors. How can I share pictures of all floors and the whole building? Well I appreciate your efforts. Thank you for your honest opinion.
You dont need to show picture of all floors. Whats needed is photo of its surrounding. U can use collage to combine multiple surrounding photo. But make sure ur mosque is inside all those surrounding photo. The absent of street view make it harder for reviewer to be sure of certain nomination but more supporting photo can help offset it. Put ur shoes in reviewer point of view, what can u do to convince urself that the object is really there. Do you have the coordinate of this?
Ok i found the location. But honestly, is it really there?
The satelite photo doesnt match mosque photo. Mosque usually have unique dome shape roof. Even the photo in google map is recently added. Personally i cant confirm its location so i will only either skip or submit as i dont know location.
Hi
Lots of guidance has been given on how to present your nomination better.
You are welcome to post any new pictures you are planning to use so we can comment further.
And the same applies to amendments to your text.
Proving location seems to be a problem.
You can use a free app such as Camera GPS to take the supporting photo ( not the main photo) .
This prints the date and location onto the photo, and this helps demonstrate the location of the object.
Sorry but for your kind information all mosques doesnāt have unique dome shape roofs. Check this out
There are several mosques without domes, including the Masjid Jamiā of Kalijodo, the Salman Mosque, the Tanwir Mosque, and the Cheraman Juma Masjid etc (the list isnāt that short as you might have thought, please google it. Itās pointless to put all search results here
please also check this out too
Thatās good (using GPS camera, although Iāve reviewed more than 300 nominations non of them use anything like this) but at least once try to read comments of everyone from my point of view than you might realize how funny it looks if this is the help people have to offer. Itāll be great if they refrain from doing so. Everyone isnāt like you.
What did you mean by this exactly?
No, it is not. Please take a closer look.
The mosque you submitted has a beautiful dome. But @TjoeMi points out that the dome is not visible in the Google Maps aerial photo. We do not know when the Google Maps aerial photo was taken and we, except you, do not know when the mosque was built. Need confirmation that the position specified is correct. And you must prove to the reviewer that you know it is.
I pointed out to you that the location may not have been the same at the time of the high school wall. Perhaps the map is outdated and has changed the town section significantly, but you may be assigning the wrong location. If there is some error, it needs to be corrected.
We have had some from these areas getting their nominations rejected, and they come here asking why. One thing that jumps out to us is the poor grammar in the English they used, and even though Dutch is the most used language in these areas, others, not Niantic staff or ambos, have told them all nominations they submit should be in English. Usually they were being told this in a local group or a group specifically for these areas that isnāt a part of any larger Wayfarer group, like here, Reddit, Discord, etc.
Many reviewers and ML may ser the poor grammar in English and feel that whatever is poorly written is of low quality, so the nominations get rejected. Those submitting usually note that theyāre more comfortable with Dutch, and since Niantic lets any language be used in any part of the world, itās always recommended to use the language theyāre most comfortable with, not a language they donāt know as well just because someone told them to use that language.
Itās happened more than once, where the submitter used a language theyāre less familiar with, in yhe Dutch speaking parts of Belgium and the Netherlands, and with different submitters.
I am not saying that all mosque have dome shape. I said āMosque usually have unique dome shape roofā.
As u can see from the example you provide urself, the roof is distinct enough to be recognised from satelite view. I dont need street view to know that the mosque is real. I am sorry if satelite view is outdated in your area. The best u can do is provide more supporting photo as per ambassador said
Not all mosques have domes. Where I live, I know of mosques that are in buildings that used to have different purposes; I even know of one thatās in a former bowling alley and has no dome, just signage.
Just like how churches will look different all around the world, so will mosques.
Yes. I am just stating the fact that neither dome nor the two tower of the nominated mosque to appear in aerial view.
I have been trying to express the fact that maps arenāt reliable enough in this area. Using a GPS camera was sound and practical advice. Iām posting here to seek practical suggestions and unique insights. I understand that this platform isnāt meant for seeking approval, but I would appreciate it if people could be more considerate and adopt a less aggressive tone. The challenge lies in nominating a place in an area where itās very difficult to verify all the necessary information, especially at a key wayfarer point that needs approvalāparticularly because itās in an underdeveloped region where maps and satellite views are inadequate. Another important point to consider is that locations can change over time, and nominations can sometimes take an extremely long time to process.
I am sorry to hear that. But its still submitter job to provide supporting information for reviewer to check. If you cant have extra time to compile enough evidence, then its likely going rejection again. Regarding this area with no street view, my best advice is taking the surrounding photo with roof visible from satelite. Some of my submission dont have street view but surrounding photo is unique enough to be compared with satelite view. Satelite view is still ur best buddy here, otherwise some other people can just claim his home as mosque and submit it. Mosque is one of the easiest, we havent talk about smaller stuff like plaque or statue which is even harder to be seen from satelite.
Youāre right. Iāve noticed that while people are successfully nominating places for plaques, my submissions seem to be overlooked. Unfortunately, in Pakistan, games that utilize Wayfarer points are not very popular, resulting in a limited number of players participating in the nomination process. Thatās why Iām looking for effective strategies to nominate locations that can gain approval from reviewers who may not be familiar with them. If you were in my position, how would you work to ensure that your nominations get approved?
More supporting photo. One of the easy one is mosque. Since we have limited space on surrounding photo, u should get more photo on goggle map, which i believe you ald done. But more picture from distance which show surrounding building. I notice some pakistan mosque still have unique shape roof and / tower. Those will be the 1st to be submitted.
Your supporting photo should be a wide shot of the area and include the item you are nominating. Ideally from a different angle than your main photo. To give a good idea of distance I would imagine yourself taking it from the other side of the street(or a good distance back from the POI but not to far you can no longer see it). This is something Ive seen done wrong a lot. Dont just take your close photo, back up 6 feet and take a 2nd photo(or heaven forbid you submit your main photo as your supporting photo). Back up, maybe move a bit left or right, then take your photo(little hard to put it in words for me but give me more area to look at) This can help people get different views and can help reviewers pin point where your nomination is better. Then if streetview isnt available I might be able to tell where it should be based of the nearby buildings/streets in your supporting photo by using satellite. Or at least tell you didnt crop something you got off the internet.
I think pakistan also have many temple with visible roof top. Those visible from satelite view is ur best bet for now
