It does to me, as if there’s a lot of bogus edits going on, I would like to have a chance to do something about it.
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It’s not your place to be the Wayfarer police. The team is highly aware of potential abuse and has abuse detection methods (some way too sensitive). Just pick the right title and move on.
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- The ‘report’ buttons are there for a reason for anyone to use if there is abuse, and many have asked for these measures in the past, which Niantic supplied
- I don’t consider myself a ‘Wayfarer police’.
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I think it depends a lot in a case by case and theoretically local reviewers would know what’s existing or current, but I’m one of the more prolific reviewers in my area and I couldn’t tell you if a Wayspot a mile from my house contains a full stop in the title or not.
I think while reviewing if I see one or two of these types of edits, I’d just select the one that makes the most sense (for me, no period in the title unless I have reason to think it’s a artistic choice for a mural, etc). When I start seeing it several times a week, that begins to signal to me something widespread. Maybe even the full stop is being removed. But why was it there to begin with? At that point, I may use the Report feature on the review page or use Help Chat to say I suspect some form of abuse.
I appreciate that this is a complex issue. Keep in mind Niantic Wayfarer doesn’t provide us tools to know what the original Wayspot is. This is very unintuitive at times especially when someone is trying to repurpose. Using IITC or the Ingress map is going above and beyond and is absolutely something I have done in the past.
It’s great to have these discussions. I think a lot of us have learned a little more, even on questions not directly asked.
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Going back to the subject, I keep getting so many title edits with the name of the art piece in quotations. That doesn’t help Ingress players! Stop it! English is already complicated!
Ok, rant over…
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“I’ll ignore the request to support Ingress Players”
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I actually think it is an Ingress player though, as this was in Featured Wayspots when it was approved, and the player was listed as an Ingress player.
This is one edit I’d like to submit without the quotation marks, as well as include the artist info. All of these utility boxes in my city list the artist on the side, and they deserve the credit, like so:
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I don’t think any of my wayspots are Quotation marks, but I always seperate titles from the rest of the title with a Dash / Hyphon / Slash / Something similar so that people know the difference. Never knew there were issues with Quotes to be fair.
I may use a hyphen from time to time, especially if it’s at a certain location and that may help. I know of some LFLs at businesses and parks that will have titles like Little Free Library - (Insert business name). Little Free Library - Grand Slam Insurance (a real title for a LFL at an insurance business) is a lot better than just Little Free Library.
I left that title alone, but edited the description to mention the baseball theme that the LFL has.
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I prefer formatting some with quotation marks and the name of the artist on the title. Some artwork titles come across very vague or unusual when in review. Having the quotation marks would help reviewers look at it as more formal/official. For instance, I read all of these differently:
- Ascension Utility Box Art
- “Ascension” Utility Box Art
- “Ascension” by Dennis Knull
#1 can be misread as a utility box art organized by “Ascension” (is it a group/inidividual/place/series of art?). #3 gives a nice feel that it is really an artwork IMO. #2 is a concession between the two, as putting ‘Utility Box Art’ would more likely hammer down the POI being discussed for reviewers. Personally more likely to use #2 for the initial submission title then edit to #3.
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I shouldn’t worry about the Ingress sort order too much because we’ll always have to deal with “The”.
I want to believe it prevents botting but it’s such an edge use case
We very well know that Niantic and everyone else wants the best answer.
We often encounter situations where two valid names exist for a single location, especially after business closures or ownership changes. This leads to a frustrating cycle of denied submissions, as we try to update either the photos or the names without success. It helps me to know which was is the old wording and the new suggested edits.
That sounds like you wanna vote in favor of repurposing?
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Please clarify your statement. Your response is too brief to understand your meaning.
I may be misinterpreting what you’re saying, but it sounds like this is exactly why Niantic doesn’t want us to know what’s existing and what is being edited in. If the photo is “Italian Restaurant” the text should be associated with that, not “Dan’s Autoshop.” That’s a bit extreme, but edits shouldn’t be changing a business, only building on that particular business.
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“Repurosing” is changing a Wayspot to reflect a different candidate. A typical example is a restaurant closes and a new one opens in the same building. The new restaurant must be nominated and reviewed on its own merit, not “piggybacked” in just because the previous restaurant was acceptable.
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Sorry for not being thorough… but Gendgi just elaborated in more detail what I meant.
I appreciate your question, but I wasn’t prepared to discuss the off-topic of repurposing Wayspots in that context on the spot and then leave the answers to a henchman. That’s not cool.
While I agree that some Wayspots may be due for replacement, I believe it’s important to consider the historical and cultural significance of each location. Perhaps a more nuanced approach, such as modifying existing Wayspots or creating new ones in conjunction with existing ones, could be a more appropriate solution.
Hello again, I completely agree. I’ve never encountered a drastic change like a restaurant becoming an auto shop. That’s definitely not what I meant. I was thinking of more minor changes, like an apartment complex changing its name but keeping the same dog park. For example, my brother recently purchased a $30 million apartment and renamed the complex, but the apartment dog park remained unchanged.