Post-Niantic Codename / Attribution on old POI

For those of us who were doing nominations through Ingress, and are now carrying forward in Pokemon-go, is there any particular reason for our old contributions to remain unattributed? It would be nice to have an option to refresh our Codename in the wayfarer settings, and apply it retroactively.

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I have several that I submitted via PoGo and don’t have my username on them in Ingress. I don’t think most care if their codenames are on ones they submitted via Ingress before the split. Besides, we have to submit twice now if we want Wayspots in both PoGo and Ingress.

Also, when reviewing submissions, we have no idea who submitted them or what their codenames are, unless they include it somewhere in the nomination, which shouldn’t be done. We also have the option for our codenames not to be displayed if we have a Featured Wayspot.

Could be nice, yea, but I doubt it would be a priority any time soon.

I made close to a thousand nominations specifically through Ingress, despite having always considered myself a primary PoGO player. I have a lot of contributions I’d be rather happy to have “photo credit” on in PoGO, especially in places I likely won’t revisit. Locally, I would sometimes add a photo from PoGO after approval, especially if I cropped it differently or if was an especially interesting/meaningful contribution.

I also have many submission in ingress since i play it first and i help develop my area to be what it is now. While its good to have your name carryover, i ald accept that it may not happen.

Besides offering a point of pride to the original contributors, I can think of another justification. I believe it would help reduce vandalism. From the current Pokemon-perspective, many stops and gyms are anonymous, as inherited from other games. It’s much easier for someone with bad intent to deface a seemingly “unowned” piece of work than one whose proprietorship is clear. In some cases, the contributor’s handle may even have been familiar to the bad actor, who couldn’t otherwise know who made the original contribution.

Also, I believe the change would be inexpensive to make. A small database hook, and an option to activate it if a contributor so chooses.

Any big points against?

I think the biggest point against is mentioned by Gendgi:

No one owns any of the Wayspots that they submit and get approved, so there’s no vandalism that could occur.

Abuse could occur, such as the removal of a stop/gym by a bad actor or map manipulation, for example, but there are routes to report abuse as well as removed valid Wayspots, and staff most likely would have info on who the abuser is.

I report many invalid Wayspots for removal, and I’ve never gotten any slack from the community from doing so, because they don’t know that I was the one that requested removal. Now, if someone did know and got upse with me for following the guidelines, they then may try to find a Wayspot I submitted and got approved that is valid and try to remove it. That, of course, could be seen as abuse and possible harassment towards other users, which I don’t think any of us want to see happen.

I would rather be anonymous these days than known.

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This is definitely not the case. There are several levels of proprietorship inherent in these games between real world owners and maintainers, virtual world users and maintainers, and the corporate overseers of that virtual world. Vandalism is a thing at any level.

I have recently discovered that the wayfarer operators have a very limited ability to undo damage once it occurs, and delivering consequences to bad actors requires evidence and patterns of bad behaviour. It is much better to inhibit the damage before it occurs. Even a small effect, such as results by showing that the contributor’s name is the same as often shows up in nearby gyms and raids, would reduce the workload needed by the security and assurance people.

I come from the Ingress mentality, where for the most part everyone immediately knows everyone else’s business. However, I don’t think anyone is arguing that deletion requests should be de-anonymised, or even that contributors should be forced to display their codename. As an option for those who can judge it useful, though, it seems worth the small effort to add.

No one owns Wayspots but Wayfarer and the other Scopely products. Scopely has the final say with all Wayspots, and we have granted them this right by agreeing to the ToS. You may also want to check the meaning of vandalism again, as it means unlawfully destroying something, and it’s hard to destroy something that’s virutal and we have routes to get back. It also seems that English is not your first language, so there may be some misunderstanding with the words you are using, or, if you’re using a translator, it may be a poor one (the forums do have a translator).

I know no one in my community who plays either Ingress or PoGo, as I don’t get involved with events, nor do I really communicate with any other users. I like playing by myself; I don’t like other people to get involved with me.

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Like others have said, this is most likely not a high priority for most, or it really isn’t something that other care about, so it most likely won’t be happening any time soon.

I would love to have my name on the photos for contributions I submitted through Ingress in Pokemon Go.

In the days of the Wayfarer vanilla forum, it might still have been possible, but not now.
Back then, many PoGo trainers did not even want to show their trainer name.
Also, the fact that PoGo’s intended player base is partly children is another reason why it could be hidden.
Also, pre-2016 Ingress agents wouldn’t want that either.

Well i play ingress since 2014. I actually prefer my name known in pogo.

It doesn’t appear anyone has come up with a reason not to add the option to attribute our old nominations, in exactly the same way as we can optionally attribute our new nominations.

The reasons to add the feature stand.

Can someone at Nia-Scopely weigh in on whether adding the feature is worth the time, relative to the thousands of people who would find the feature relevant?