During the screening process, there were nominations that were difficult to judge.
This sign indicates that this road is the Kumano Kodo, an ancient pilgrimage route in Japan. It is attached to a curve mirror. It is not a question of whether this sign meets the eligibility criteria. I would like your opinion as to whether the location in which it is installed meets the rejection criteria.
Arita City, Wakayama Prefecture is famous for its tangerines, and there are tangerine fields adjacent to this site. We can see that there are also tangerine trees on the property where this sign is located. There is also a structure in the back, which appears to be a house or barn. The front of the property is agricultural land, and it is not possible to determine whether the structure in the back is a dwelling or a barn. Assuming this is agricultural land, should the sign be determined to be in agricultural land and rejected?
Is the green a pedestrian pathway? If so, I would not have issues with that location personally.
The ditch cover at the edge of the road surface has been painted green, but if you check other areas, you will see evidence of a white line being drawn. Although the white line has disappeared, it is believed to be a roadside strip for pedestrians. The green painted roadside strip is an indication that it is a school route, especially when painted green.
Single family residence or farm - is an American zoning term, meant to describe private homes.
The “or farm” part is so it encompasses the house on a farm. Houses have different insurance processes than other structures. And if for sale, houses are priced differently than, say, a commercial building of the same size. Also, private homes have special laws around them, for privacy.
If you’re working in one of these industries, you see the “or farm” in context, and it makes perfect sense. But Niantic published it to reviewers without the context.
IOW: A trail sign, produce stand, corn maze, etc on farm property - are fine locations for wayspots. Just not the farm house or yard.
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Thank you for your reply.
I was wondering if the farm should be treated like a single family residential property, but now I know it is not.
From what I can find, farms are to be treated as single family private residential property, in that they are ineligible. Now that wouldn’t include farms that are explicitly open to the public with events or a farm store, for example, but private farms seems to be categorically ineligible.
Continuing the discussion from Private Residences, Farmland & K-12:
That the “or farm” part is not part of any zoning terminology in the US. Single family residence alone is a zoning term.
My aunt and uncle own a “single family farm” ie it has a farm house for them to live in. The farm is a business, which also contains their house, but the yards, fields are all the business.
Their farm is crisscrossed with public rights of way including a particularly popular one, so on sunny days they regularly have groups of hikers passing by their window. Particularly funny is they have a mobile signal booster installed a tthe farmhouse, so all the hikers pause in the farmyard while they look at all the pings their phones just made
They can’t stop the hikers. Hence the comment about items such as trail markers on farms being eligible is correct. They are public rights of way, so the hikers are legally allowed to be on them
Certainly if a public right of way exists, but that should be a named trail that can be proved objectively by a map or something. Just saying that people cut across someone else’s private farm isn’t sufficient.
We have a farm with lovely water views. When no one is there, people come down to look at the water (and steal flower bulbs of all things). When someone is there, they get chased off and there are no trespassing signs, but the neighbors could say there is a path through the property, even though they know they shouldn’t be using it. (It’s a bunch of old retired ladies who like to steal the flower bulbs…guess they are bored).
And yes, most farms are businesses, unless you only grow to feed yourself.
Doesnt have to be a named trail, just an official public right of way - there are signs and local authority maps for that kind of thing. But yes, official in some capacity. The hikers are fine to be on the trail, which is clearly marked. They aren’t qllowed to wander round stealing stuff of course, but they are allowed to be there and pass through.
Their farm dates back to the 1600s, the rights of way are very well established, and the prominent one is pretty popular with hikers who go on holiday to hike that area.
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Right. Signs along the exterior fence of farmland do not have the same rules as signs along the fence of a single family residence - unless this sign is along the fence around the farmhouse.
Trails can go through farms, and their markers are valid. But not at the fence of the house.
Farms can have cafes that could be valid. (If the cafe is in the house, it is zoned commercial, not SFR). Vineyards can have tasting rooms, also valid.
In the zoning table, SFR is paired with a definition that ends with “or farm”. It probably used to be “or farmhouse” but along the way some system truncated by number of characters.
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