Waypoint Title Name - Rejected, Why?

Hi all,

I’m trying to get into the community a bit more by helping adding waypoints and editing out of date waypoints.

This bar changed name from “The Century” to “Mo Chara” years ago. Since changing it has become a major part of the town, winning best craft beer bar in all of Ireland!

The title edit was rejected, to which it was appealed. The appeal was also rejected. You can clearly see on Google Maps also, the bar is called “Mo Chara”. Reason being “It is not related to the object that it represents”. Which it absolutely is!

I’m very confused by this. The waypoint is the correct waypoint, the information is correct. I even added “Mo Chara” in the description of the waypoint and that was accepted ages before! So, the description says it, but apparently the title can’t be updated?

Where do we go from here? Apparently I’m breaking the policy. But I’m very confused as to how.

Thanks for all your insights!

Hi @One337
Welcome to the forum :hugs:
The correct way to go foward is, that you request the removal of the old bar wayspot and nominate the new one.
What you’re trying to do right now is called “repurposing” and niantic don’t want that.
The new bar needs it’s own nomination process.
A fellow wayfarer out of this community gives the advice to nominate first the new pub (it must be family friendly, open for children as well), so if the old get removed, the new one could pop up with the same synch.

Thanks Alice,

So basically, request the removal first. And immediately afterwards create the nomination for the new bar? [Edit: other way around!!!]

Should I mention in the points for the community when submitting a nomination that I had also requested the removal?

Part of me feels like someone will reject it as a duplicate waypoint.

Thanks

Which step first depends on your personal choice.

I wouldn’t do that. Make a good nomination.

That’s highly likely the outcoming, but than you can appeal it and mention in your appeal statement what happend.

Perfect! Very helpful, much appreciated! Hope you’ve a great day. I’ll work on it.

Thanks

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The Century Bar closed and there is a different business at the location. So, it should go through the nomination process.

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That’s right yes, The Century was the name of the place for a long time (you could say centuries, excuse the pun). It closed ages ago and local guys opened their own bar in the same place. Improved it massively.

I’ll keep in mind for this type of thing in future, that as Alice mentioned it needs to be removed and a new waypoint be created.

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As it is unethical to choose not to update Niantic’s map for them since they refuse to incorporate appropriate and logical updates to existing wayspots, please make sure to break any routes associated with this wayspot by reporting it for removal.

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Everytime a UK pub changes name we should ask for a removal and then resubmit?

This was not a name change. It’s a different business completely. The previous business has announced a permanent closure.

Do you mean, if there’s clear evidence (like newspaper article f.e.) that only the name has changed, a title edit is allowed?

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Thanks although that is what happens in the UK very frequently so it would be nice to know where the line is drawn and something should be completely removed.

To say it’s a completely different business shows a lack of understanding on how pubs in the RoI and the UK function.

Often the business is the brewery not the management. So no change.
Covid caused a lot of upheaval and changes to win people back

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I’d like to just mention, this bar has become one of the best places in the town to go to. The century was a neglected, run down bar for a long time. Mo Chara won best craft beer bar in Ireland recently and attracts massive crowds every day. The food is phenomenal as well.

I do think it deserves the effort to be updated correctly.

It’s definitely unfortunate that Niantic has chosen to purposefully make this difficult and have negative impacts on games. I agree that it would make sense to update the wayspot associated with this pub so that it properly reflects the current name, but Niantic has made it clear that they do not want this to happen :person_shrugging:

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I had a look. They have done a grand job and works in this case.

For every one’s like it there are 10 that are purely an update by the brewery which often includes a name change, menu change etc

It would be nice to know if I should attempt to update or remove.

Is this something I can do “remotely”?
I’m not in the area anymore unfortunately, I moved away.

Do you mean spoof?

If yes, that’s up to you I guess, personally I’ve never seen how that can be fun in a game named Go.

No like if there’s some Niantic app I’m not aware of. Or in game feature I’m not aware of.

The app is not meant to be used for that sort of thing.
So otherwise if you are too far away there is probably little you can do at the moment and it will just have to wait.