Appeal Denied on an out of commission fire hydrant mural

Back in 2023, my town commissioned 21 fire hydrant murals to be placed around the downtown area.
This specific one is an out of commission hydrant which you can tell from the photos that it is missing one of the primary nozzles. Appeal was denied because it would interrupt emergency services - even though it is not a working hydrant.

Title:
Why So Serious Hydrant

Description:
Graffiti mural featuring the joker. These murals were painted in 2023 as a way for artists to engage with the community and beautify the area between downtown and the college campus.

Supporting Info:
ART ALERT! Arcata's Downtown Fire Hydrants Get a New Look As Part of the City's Downtown Beautification Efforts | Lost Coast Outpost | Humboldt County News Murals such as these make for a great reason to explore, there are 21 of them around town! This one is out of commission so it doesn’t interrupt emergency services.

Address:
460 I St, Arcata, CA 95521, USA

Good street view address:
850 Samoa Blvd, Arcata, CA 95521, USA

Appeal Information:
Appeal Notes

This submission fits criteria by being a piece of artwork in a public space and makes for a great place to explore. The hydrant is out of commission so it doesn’t interrupt emergency services and is accessible by the public. It is meant to be enjoyed by the community and is one of many hydrant murals that were commissioned by the city to add artwork to public spaces downtown. Thank you!

Niantic Note

Thanks for the appeal, Wayfinder! The nomination in question is a painted fire hydrant, and this will obstruct the operations of emergency services, which does not meet the Wayfarer criteria. We recommend you review the Wayspot rejection criteria before submitting your next Wayspot contribution: Rejection Criteria — Wayfarer Help Center

Reviewers provided these top reasons for not accepting this submission:
  1. The submission may obstruct access to emergency or critical services. For example, hospitals, military bases or utility sites

Anyone have any advice on this one?

I’m thinking I will just resubmit but I want to make it super clear that this hydrant is out of commission.

Hi @kwezzie
Honestly I won’t try to submit that one again or you’ll need some better proof of it’s comissioned permance.
I’ve looked at your added link (thanks for that :hugs:) and can’t find this specific installation while they seem to all been listed:


Maybe another “local artist” wanted to do their own project (vandalism).

Thanks for the response.

Yeah unfortunately that map is out of date now and I couldn’t find an updated one from the past two years. But regardless, I’m curious about the criteria for “art”. To me this fits criteria based on this post Unique Art . In particular, in the “vandalism” section, it suggests that graffiti can be considered unique art as long as it it “distinct, unique, tells a story…etc.”

I suppose I wrongly assumed that it was obvious that it is out of commission since the front spigot no longer has the “lid” which is where the water would have come out of.

I’d never argue about art.
The problem is that this one isn’t listed in your added evidence. When the project has expand there’s probably a diffrent source, an article on instagram, anything.
For the Niantic/Scopely appeal reviewers it wasn’t enough proof of a fire hydrant out of operation.

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Roger that

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Frankly this particular art is nothing like other decomissioned hydrant in the link. So i find hard to believe its painted hy the same artist.

You can try to resubmit but i personally think its just grafitti. If it looks better, i might say differently

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So just for clarity sake:

Even if this wasn’t part of the 2023 mural work, you think this is too crappy of art to count as unique?

I always use the simplified terminology that…

“Approved / Authorised” = “Mural” = Accept.
“Not Approved / Un-authorised” = “Graffiti” = Reject.

… in most cases.

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Sorry if I missed this…. But what proof has been provided to show that this is decommissioned?

In the images I provided, you can see this hydrant is missing the main outlet.

The main outlet cover? The outlet is there.

The outlet cover is missing. If you compare the photos of the hydrant I posted, to the other ones in this chat - you can see that the other ones all have the outlet cover where as mine does not.

i dont think a missing cover constitutes as proof of non operation.

Ok I’m not here to argue about the mechanics of a fire hydrant. Thanks.

You don’t need to argue with me but IMO thats the major factor here, it was a rejection reason with both reviewers and the appeals team.

In short yes. It make people wonder why submitter trying to get it approved using other artist name when it doesnt seems so. It doesnt like anything in the link, submitter himself give.