More PokéStops and Gyms Coming to India and Indonesia - Discussion

This is too much needless stress for me. I just expressed I want to end engagement and still got pinged immediately under it twice.

Please I request again other than official reply Tintino don’t ping me again. If my comments are that problematic mods can delete all of them I truly don’t mind well obviously except the ones I did to Tintino lol.

De que valen más gimnasios si seguimos con el tope de 20?, incrementar el número de gimnasios en el que se puede dejar un Pokémon, también sería de gran ayuda y felicidad, que menos que poder meter en 50 gimnasios, no les parece?

This update is a complete mistake.
And the issue is compounded by the fact that while this update says it is for the rural areas, the rural areas are suffering the most.
All should be undone once and for all.

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My community is devastated, finding power spot for daily claim is hard now, cant they just reverse this, my area have a lot of gym and pokestop, people regularly submit wayfarer

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They have taken away this feature of the game from us. I don’t understand what they were thinking making such a rollout without any proper planning. Even before rollout happened I specifically asked tintino how they will replace powerspots, and his answer was vague/community Ambassador oriented since the beginning. Look where we are now. It’s been a week and no updates or acknowledgement of the problem. Also no response on how they are going to fix this mess. Just replies from other community Ambassador/mods telling us to go out and create more wayspot, when we have already reached limit in our community meetup spots. Disastrous planning by this team.

I didnt want to criticize this update but no pokestops or gyms showing up in majority of the powerspots place and no clarification on how they will help us now is making me lose my patience.

In my area doesn’t even lack pokestop or gym idk why they are doing this

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Those of you who have no power spots now, please let us know if any show up on the 4th of the month. That is when we have been noticing a sync of new power spots on the Wayfarer Discussion Discord. It seems to happen around the same time of day that Max Monday, Spotlight Hour, and Raid Hour happen (6pm) here, but I am not sure if that is true globally.

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I live in central time zone and it happens exactly at midnight for us. So I think it depends on your timezone.

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I have gotten a few power stops 1km further then they originally were and only in one side of the map. The other side have no power stops whatsoever, I hope more power spots get added soon.

Edit: I think they were also removed.

I had complained that my area only had two power spots. Well, now you’ve removed those as well? My friend has seven to ten power spots near him, and he didn’t even get gyms or Pokestops in compensation. I kindly request that you revert to the previous map.

There goes my hope of getting a powerspot nearby

Why don’t they just add If a rural L14 S2 cell has ≤6 total stops/gyms, guarantee 1 Powerspot in that cell, without replacing anything.

Is this really an update—or a downdate? What’s become clear is that this change exposes just how broken the PoGo and Wayfarer systems are.
At their core, they no longer function properly.

This issue wouldn’t exist if the mechanics had been worked out in advance. But they weren’t—because doing so would require major structural changes to PoGo, changes that city-based trainers would strongly oppose. The problem is easier to understand when you break it down:

Gyms: permanent
PokeStops: permanent
PowerSpots: rotating

Here’s the catch: if a rotating PowerSpot gets converted into a permanent PokeStop, the Power Spot disappears entirely. If you rotate all of wayspot—or pre-define the conversion priorities and ratios—you end up with a set number of Gyms, Power Spots, and PokeStops.
But because the underlying cell system is global, this kind of restructuring would spark even greater opposition than now, especially in dense urban areas where it would cause massive disruption.

So, you see the problem: this “update” is a dead end.
The only real options are to roll it back, force global changes, or fudge the system by importing even more low-quality location database.

The Wayfarer team needs to work with the PoGo team, own the mistake of rushing this change, and take responsibility by addressing it immediately.

Of course, apart from this, the divergence in quality between existing Pokestops and converted imported Pokestops needs to be explained in a way that is acceptable to all Wayfinders.
Please do this as soon as possible.

We must not overlook the decision made by this Wayfarer team.

If no one can participate, the map won’t progress. In vast regions like India and the archipelago of Indonesia, we must cultivate new Wayfinders in each area. Currently, the only way to join Wayfarer is by raising your Trainer Level in Pokémon GO. This requires Wayspots. For Wayspots that don’t meet the criteria or have incorrect locations, we should expect the new Wayfinders who will grow in those areas to correct them. Wayspots converted from imported locations should eventually become unnecessary after sufficient time has passed. I hope converted wayspots that don’t meet the eligibility criteria will be flexibly handled and removed.
Meanwhile, we need a report from the team outlining a solution for the issue where most power spots have disappeared. For players in the affected areas, a lack of visibility into the future saps their motivation and breeds dissatisfaction and distrust.

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I’ll try

Oh, and there was an old comment from NianticAaron,

Hope this explanation is acceptable to all wayfinders)

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People are getting angry.. In my community, about 60% have already expressed their decisions to quit the game. We used to be able to run community dynamax runs at least every max monday. Now it feels like we are on a marathon instead. Good job!

Why not wait a few more days?
If the Powerspots disappeared because imported locations were converted to Wayspots, urban Powerspots should recover to some extent. Ideally, the game board should be updated immediately, though.

According to others the power stop sync will happen of the 4th of the month. For now we can only create feedback and hope that it gets fixes ASAP.

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Yeah but majority of the powerspots are just gone in my area and no pokestops or gyms showed up to replace those. Just gone :disappointed_face:

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I noticed when I saw your screenshot. Breaking down the process of imported locations converting to Wayspots means removing the imported location and then re-registering a new Wayspot with the same title and location. The PowerSpot was linked to the imported location, and since that was removed, I think the PowerSpot was also removed from the PokémonGO game board. But since there should be a Wayspot that meets the requirement, I think the PowerSpot will return during the next update scheduled for the 4th of every month. I haven’t participated, so I’m not sure, but I’m sure the same thing is being discussed on Discord.

I don’t know if you are in Indonesia, or if youve seen the news. Patience is on a very limited supply over here at the moment, and this is just the icing on the cake for many members of my community. Bad, extra bad timing to make this kind of silly mistake.